@leyonhjelm Walther make a variety of guns; some of them are outstanding, some are not great. IMHO, PDP, PPQ/Q4/Q5, Q5 SF are excellent. I rate them higher than G17/G19/G34 in some regards. The PPQ 22 is mostly okay, if you are open about its limitations. The PK380 is garbage. PPK is a novelty piece. The CCP really makes me mad: so many people fall for it, and it's just not good at all; potentially even unsafe. Fortunatley, it's a single stack and the latest crop of micro nines crushed it in the market. So one hopes it will join PPX/Creed in the wastebasket of history soon and there is no reason to work up about it too much.