@supernovae@universeodon.com But you're missing the point that your complaints aren't about Mastodon itself but about the underlying Fediverse, of which Mastodon is only a client.

The reason this matters is because it's about identifying the responsible piece, especially if we want to improve or fix it.

can't change the issues you're bringing up. that runs the might be improved, as that's where those behaviors live, so that's where the finger needs to be pointed.

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The points brought up: Missing replies, missing boosts, missing likes are actually pure implementation choices of Mastodon.

Of course, going into the details of why this is Mastodon faults, requires understanding the underlying technological stack. Fixing it is "simple". Just fetch all replies from the original server, when viewing content. A client application can do this as well as Mastodon. It just involved a lot of network traffic.

That Mastodon doesn't do this, has simple performance considerations. Mastodon is build to allow somebody to host an instance with almost 1 million registered users.

@helge @supernovae @John @volkris if I was faced with such a decision to make I would choose the performance too.
The point of fedi for me is not in numbers of likes & toots - and now I'm kinda happy to know that we cannot strictly rely on them. This makes our actions more personal and conscious.

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@axkira @helge @supernovae@universeodon.com @John

Well, it's not even just about performance.
It's about the possibility that depending on how the userbase scales up, it might literally become physically impossible to transfer and duplicate all of that content all around the world.

The design of ActivityPub has issues. I'm critical of how it was set up. But, given what it's working with, there's the real possibility that the whole system would collapse should they try to make sure every reaction goes to every other instance all at once.

This is the downside of more distributed approaches. They are necessarily less efficient. That's the tradeoff.

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