#Facebook was created as a macho website and it has become a toxic space.
Maybe the #Fediverse should have a vote if it really wants to be hooked up to such a place?
Any individuals would still br free to join.
If #Meta were #Twitter, I am sure about the vote.
#Meta is in the same league, though.
#FOSS does not mean that corporations can all join, regardless of their behavior and agenda.
Yes, but "voting with your feet" is, always the last resort.
I'd prefer a more structured process, like each #Facebook user "applying" for access to the #fediverse
I am aware that this would mean a #CulturalRevolution and that probably the #Fediverse and #ActivityPub might not be configured to work this way.
Any society can only stem so many "immigrants" with different norms. - A ratio of 2,200:1 active FB/Mastodon user is not viable.
It'll be like the #BarbarianInvasions
Well that's what the federation of instances is about. That's one huge benefit of Fediverse not being one big mass but rather different instances that are coupled together dynamically.
So people get on big generic Fediverse instances first, and they can apply to move to better, more focused, more culturally homogeneous instances later.
There's no cultural revolution there. It's how it was set up, and how it is now.
It just needs to be emphasized.
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Agreed. Let me put this into a synopsis, of sorts:
Let's assume we are on #MetaDoomsday +1. #Facebook and the #Fediverse are happily integrated.
Some in the #Fediverse will decide to leave communications "open" to #Elmo's #MetaSite.
Many will defederate (as I think should be done, at least initially).
Here's the catch:
When the telephone was first introduced, the benefit was quite little, there being only two phones....
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...As will all networks (network effect) the use increases exponentially (at least in the beginning) with an increasing number of users.
This said, of the 2.959 mn total combined users (data as of January 2023), you could only reach about 1 mn users anymore (assuming that 300k would not defederate from FB and would be defederated from in retaliation - but this is a side aspect)...
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...Put differently, you'd only be able to reach 0.03380 % of all merged #Fediverse users anymore.
Sort of like being able to use your mobile phone only with your immediate family, but with no-one else.
Sort of limits the attractiveness for the "#Defederates", doesn't it?
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Let me put it a different way.
Because of how Fediverse is engineered, every instance is perfectly free to engage with another instance *while treating its content with skepticism* due to that instance's culture.
So, Facebook links up? Alright. Existing instances can engage with all of that content while still treating Facebook users as second class, as outsiders, without full access to existing instances' systems.
Facebook users who wish may apply and be granted accounts on existing instances if they fit in, and that's the way to onboard them.
So you get the best of both worlds. You're protected from the unwashed masses while still engaging with them, just at arm's length, while encouraging them to come over.
All of that is possible based on how Fediverse is currently designed and operating.
Make sense?
