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We need to be clear that this is all up to Biden.

The Treasury says it will have enough money to service its debts, so should Biden choose to default despite having money to pay, regardless of his constitutional obligation, that would be clear grounds for impeachment.

Yes, if he wants the power to borrow more than he needs to work with Congress to get that power. He has to come to the table.

But all of his talk about defaulting should be met with pushback of the illegality of that position.

@volkris @gwfoto it is McCarthy waving the default bomb. wants to cut budget by 22%. if Kevin’s lips are moving, he is lying.

@caseyjonesed

The president already has the revenues to avoid default, and that has nothing to do with the legislative branch of government.

McCarthy doesn't control the Treasury; that's Biden's job. McCarthy has no authority over defaulting.

Yes, if McCarthy is threatening default, then he is indeed lying. His branch doesn't have that authority.

@gwfoto@newsie.social

@volkris @gwfoto He is Speaker of the House and is currently holding Americas credit hostage so he can cut 22% of the current budget . The President is not going to play that game. Nor should he.

@caseyjonesed

That story is simply, factually, wrong seeing as these debts are managed by the Treasury in the Executive Branch, not the Legislative Branch.

McCarthy doesn't have the authority to hold credit hostage if he wanted to. That's managed by a different branch of government that he's not part of.

@gwfoto@newsie.social

@caseyjonesed

Ha, well most relevant here, you ask the executive agency in question to consult with its departments on their updated spending plans, based on revenue projections and spending priorities, and once the budget makes it up the administrative chain of command, you hand it over to the Treasury to play their role in executing it.

I was in a meeting with such a budget just this morning.

@gwfoto@newsie.social

@volkris @gwfoto not my question. How does it pass? I know how they come up with it and I know how a budget is passed. It’s through Congress.

@caseyjonesed

The Congressional budgeting process isn't what gets actually spent, though. You can see that what the Treasury pays out is never what Congress has budgeted.

The money that is actually spent by the Treasury comes out of executive branch's ongoing budgeting, that is never passed by Congress.

Congress basically gives the executive branch permission to spend. But the practical budgeting, based on unpredictable fiscal realities, happens purely within the executive branch.

@gwfoto@newsie.social

@caseyjonesed

Or to put it a different way, you ask how **it** passes, overlooking that the government has many different budgets, made by different groups for different reasons.

Yes, Congress develops a budget for appropriations, but *that's not the budget that gets spent*.

The president also develops a budget as a request to Congress, but that doesn't get spent either.

The actual money that the Treasury spends is based on budgeting processes that are entirely inside the Executive Branch as departments spend throughout the year.

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