@volkris @InkySchwartz @futurebird @cadenza "it didn't say that it was good for them, it only said that they benefited from it!!!"

@Pajof @volkris @InkySchwartz @cadenza

We're screen- shotting the dictionary now?

I could make a bingo board for this kind of generally unproductive conversation.

It's OK to be wrong. It's OK if you assumed that the people you assume are always "unreasonable" about racism were being "unreasonable" again-- but not even black republicans are on board for this. Don't be embarrassing just to win an argument. Take off your debate team badge and try to have a real conversation.

@futurebird

From what I’ve heard on reporting on this topic, it’s not even that black Republicans ARE on board with the education standards, but that black independants are on board with it, that nonpartisans, academics, promoted the standards that are under scrutiny here.

Not that it should matter at all.

Such matters of fact shouldn’t come down to the identities of the people recognizing them. That just comes down to ad hominem argument that gets us nowhere.

So yeah, it’s okay to be wrong. And if you really want to go that direction, I will be happy to see you admit that you are at any point :-)

Although actually I don’t really care. This is social media and people are welcome to be wrong and to work on their hobby horses as much as they want.

But it absolutely doesn’t get us anywhere for people to attack claims that aren’t being made.

@Pajof @InkySchwartz @cadenza

@DeborahForPlus

I’ve heard Tim Scott trying to score political points based on this. And I don’t care what the political side is, if a person is wrong he is wrong.

Even Republicans can be wrong, believe it or not 🙂
Even Republicans trying to score political points.

@futurebird @Pajof @InkySchwartz @cadenza

@futurebird @Pajof @volkris @InkySchwartz he’s just sealioning. He never intended to debate anything in good faith. Block or mute and be done with it.

@futurebird @volkris @InkySchwartz @cadenza I'm realizing the intended sarcasm might not have been clear, as I agree with the original post entirely and think the guy arguing with everyone in the replies is doing it in bad faith. Regardless, fair point about it not being a productive comment. Would have been better to just point out that he's sealion-ing the thread and move on.

@Pajof

It’s entirely possible for something to have immediate benefit while being overall for the worse, like downing that entire cup of sugar that gives you the immediate sugar rush while generally contributing to diabetes.

The world is not so black and white.

Sometimes things that are of benefit are in the larger picture a harm.

People who deny that don’t do any good, they just come across as looking foolish and myopic.

@InkySchwartz @futurebird @cadenza

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