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@Jimijamflimflam One doesn't aid through inaction.
That's a logical contradiction, and echoes an acceptance of punishing someone for something they didn't do.
Us Pol fascists/fash adjacent
@bazkie I'd say if anything at that point it's more along the lines of social expectations of polite behavior rather than responsibility.
You know, it's polite to hold a door or say hello to your co-workers in ways that promote a good working environment.
Part of the problem is that when you start talking about things a person didn't do you're also comparing their behavior against a standard that they might not even be aware of.
You know, if I do something then I can point at the thing I did and know that I did it. But, if there's something you would have liked me to do? Well, there could be an infinite list of things I didn't know that I didn't do 🙂
There are a whole lot of complications to the idea of holding people guilty for things they didn't do, and that's the practical, beyond the logical issues that themselves raise all sorts of issues with our conceptions of the world.
Us Pol fascists/fash adjacent
@volkris @Jimijamflimflam yeah I get you! But I can make a similar example the other way around;
Let's say you live in pre-WW2 Germany, and you see the nazis painting "Jude" on store fronts; if you'd stand up to that, you'd probably get in trouble, and like you said, it's not your responsibility.
But if everyone stood up to that, the whole of the holocaust would not have happened.
I guess in the end, whether "standing up for good" is a responsibility is subjective
Us Pol fascists/fash adjacent
@volkris @Jimijamflimflam I'm not sure how to feel about that. I kinda agree on principle, but on the other hand, maybe living in a society comes with some responsibilities even if we didn't ask for them?