@FinchHaven and what's funnier is they still push for #Bluesky which is pretty damn broken between moderation, an invite only system at present, no 2FA, and it's still a freaking centralized system for now. Where as #ActivityPub on #Mastodon is already a @w3c accepted standard, and #ATprotocol still isn't even really developed for proper use yet. I already have a way larger audience here on Mastodon, more engagement, and it's on my own infrastructure of choice. This is already working
But that just means AT and Bluesky are in their early stages with potential to be way better in the not-so-distant-future.
There are a lot of problems with ActivityPub on Mastodon. Hopefully Bluesky will avoid those pitfalls.
@FinchHaven @volkris @w3c Bluesky has been around since 2019, it’s far from able to be called “early stages” after 4 years of work. Compared to ActivityPub at least being an accepted standard since 2018. ATProtocol would still have to convince other projects to incorporate it and until they even decentralize it’s kind of a moot point.
Just because they're slow doesn't mean it's not still early stages.
If they end up with something better, then we can still grouse about the pace of their development, but they'll have gotten there in the end!
@volkris @FinchHaven @w3c in terms of social media what’s better is the network that grows faster and sustains users. Bluesky has completely kneecapped themselves at every opportunity. Better doesn’t mean anything if no one can use it and your competition is rocketing ahead
Right, but AP has shown growing pains and technological issues that make it possible that in the end we'll talk about how AP has been the one kneecapping itself.
Bluesky might have the better solutions that allow it to succeed where AP has failed, if they ever manage to finally release.
We'll see.
@volkris
"But that just means AT and Bluesky are in their early stages with potential to be way better in the not-so-distant-future"
Well
I watch #Bluesky pretty closely on #Github and I can tell you they're busy working on some pretty detailed, nuts-and-bolts issues, and not anything revolutionary
Here: https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app/issues
And the #ATProto is only what Bluesky makes of it, to all appearances
Here: https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/issues
cc @chiefgyk3d @w3c