Would you tolerate a corporation stealing limited resources from your land (that should probably #stayInTheGround we might add)?

Up to 1,000 #USA troops are in #Syria, occupying #oil fields and river crossings. The Syrian Govt has repeatedly protested that their presence violates #internationalLaw.

We expressed opposition in 2015 on '#FalseBook' to the #incursion to #pillage. Though we were widely supported by followers in #Australia, F'book attacked.

We oppose #CAGEMAFIA for solid reasons.

BTW it looks like this little instance will be the next one forced to shutdown.

Paying of bills are a #goingConcern.

We've had:

1) one response to our #FDroid dev-for-donations offer (only to question our proposal),
2) no response to our idea to help #OMN to keep it online.

Server is managed by the exact same people as the 'activism' server we were on (hosted by @mastohost and moderated by @msaunders, Hamish and co), but this instance was more for #campaigning rather than #activism.

It seems @Mastodon is recreating legacy #socialMedia with a "#decentralisation ability". The #Fediverse being a vehicle on which to test it.

Decentralisation in M'don is often a smokescreen. The use of #CDNs is rife. Something like #GlutPlug/#I2PFS is needed for genuine #sustainability.

The trend?

"#MakeFediverseMastodon" — make it impossible to serve without a massive #datacenter. Thus forcing a return to #BigData, algorithmic feeds, #massSurveillance and overall repression.

@msaunders

Before we even joined Fediverse in 2019, we sensed that something was not quite right about the Mastodon story. We joined a mastodon server in the hope that in good faith we might help guide development, towards protocols like #I2P that empower the user.

Needless to say, all our suspicions have over time been validated.

Grave times for #communication.

@Mastodon @msaunders

@dsfgs

The thing is, this platform was not designed to actually be decentralized. To its core, this platform is centralized around instances.

In my opinion, that's not quite right. There are a lot of problems with it. And I do criticize it every chance I can.

@Mastodon @msaunders

@volkris @Mastodon @msaunders

Yes and no, we meant decentralised as compared to the legacy offerings.

The way Master'don will trend is back torwards #reCentralisation, because of the #contentDelivery issue.

iwrc, some instances don't try to serve all content and #hotLink(?) to the originating instance, but that has issues too, incl. #privacy.

That's why we suggest servers play a #conductor's role. With a #glutPlug they'd hotlink to I2P hosted content served by fedizens who boosted it.

@dsfgs @volkris @Mastodon @msaunders

I think as someone which has looked into the tech a bit I should elaborate

Federated means Decentralized, but not peer-to-peer.

Essentially, the difference between server-server decentralization and client-client decentralization can mean a lot, but it doesn‘t make Mastodon and the Fediverse any less decentralized than something like Nostr, but the model is different and both have their pros and cons when compared to one another.

@Rush

Well, it's not really about peer-to-peer since in the ActivityPub model all of the instances stand as peers.

I'd more say it's not user-to-user.

But it DOES make Fediverse less centralized, which we can see from the protocol talking about instances managing their centralized content feeds to the user-facing implications like moderation.

All users on an instance are bound by the single set of administrative decisions made by the instance operator, the one, central node of processing and configuration.

And the one, singular point of failure the instance represents.

Sure, a person can leave and join a different instance, but that's just going from one central operator serving one group of users to another.

So yes, this does make Fediverse less decentralized than some alternatives, and IMO it makes it not particularly decentralized at all.

It just makes for more centers.
@dsfgs @Mastodon @msaunders

@volkris wdym there's plenty of instances with a bus factor over 1

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@Rush to put it simply, every instance with more than one user is a centralized collection of users.

And there are plenty of instances with more than one user.

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