@PixelChonk Well, I think there is a contrast with a third option, which is being opposed to the Israeli actions without necessarily being in favor of the intolerant positions of many on the Palestinian side.
Often enough in this world we can say that at least both sides can be wrong for different reasons, but more realistically, that on the whole list just more complicated.
But at the least, a person might simply oppose one side without signing on to the side of the other.
@PixelChonk so I think maybe rhetoric could be improved if people spoke more in terms of being against the military action than speaking in favor of a group of people with problematic positions.
I constantly hear phrasing like pro-palestine so it's not surprising that others get the impression that the Palestinian cause is being agreed to or promoted.
It's a confusing rhetoric being used.
@volkris I don't find pro Palestine in itself to be confusing, I am pro Palestine, in that I Believe it has been and should continue to be an independent state. I think the confusion comes when others assume being pro Palestine means I'm pro violence or pro Hamas or pro any individual or group or agenda within Palestine.
@PixelChonk I think the problem is that so many Palestinians seem on board with anti-LGBT positions.
I think you said above that people are confused because they are focusing on that aspect of their cause.
So like me personally, I can't back them due to that, even if I was opposed to the Israeli actions, I also can't sign on to the anti-LGBT Palestinian cause either.
But I can say we need to do something to stop the suffering of one even if I'm not supporting some of the ones positions.
@volkris exactly like, wanting Palestine and it's people to be free from oppression and genocide isn't an endorsement of everything done and believed in their name, that childish team v team rhetoric just distracts and derails