That captures the sorry state of much of #MSM when it comes to #DonaldTrump and #Election2024
Real #journalism requires practioners to ask every member of the #GOP to clarify whether they are in alignment with the #VerminSpeech
Real #journalists do not accept the usual evasive tactics utilized by pols in evading hard questions by attempting to run the clock down because of the tyranny of time slots
No moving on or spinning away without answering the question
@mnutty I agree that it captures the story states of much of MSM, but not the way you think.
The comic strip took the quote out of context, and so anyone who read the whole paragraph realizes that the comic strip is being a bit fast and loose with its facts, so the rest of it isn't very convincing.
Yes, much like so much reporting these days, which is why so many have lost trust in journalism.
Oh please we know exactly who #DonaldTrump means when he refers to #Marxists and #Communists.
Really??
There is no context when a politician refers to his political opponents as #Vermin. I know #Facism when I see it
@mnutty they literally cut off the text
How can you know that you know exactly what the speaker means when you deny that there is any context?
It's one thing to tolerate out of context reporting. It's something different to declare that there is no more context.
It's like flatly saying that there is nothing outside of the echo chamber.
It's a pretty telling statement to put on the table.
The job of the cartoonist is not to report verbatim. It is to lampoon. If you don’t understand the full reference or context, then you’d have to be asleep at the wheel
@mnutty Well then I guess like you said, here is a cartoonist lampooning journalism and the way they misreport fact to confirm biases all the time.
Jokes on us I guess.
@jensorensen I disagree.
As you can see from your screenshot and also confirm in video recordings, he went on to clarify what he was talking about with more specific complaints than merely the singling out of people of different political persuasions.
So with that included it changes his proposal, that he was going to prosecute people who "lie and cheat and steal on elections"
Yes, that's all part of the BS that he feeds his crowd, but it changes the line away from being just about prosecuting political groups, as it has been portrayed.
When I listened to the original audio and double checked it with the video right now, with his pacing I believe it should be regarded as one long sentence, not cut in half as so many have.
@mnutty because the fewer words the better, lest you risk upsetting your confirmation bias with a more informed view of the world?
Really, it should be immediately clear why picking a single word out of a speech isn't a legitimate path toward understanding.
It's just childish.
@jensorensen
@volkris @jensorensen @mnutty It does not matter what he thinks or what he means, it matters what his audience understands, which is WAY less rigorous than journalists.
@starsider Well right, that's what I'm saying.
Trump doesn't really think anything in particular. He just mimics the audience back at them.
That's why it's much more important to focus on the audience than on Trump, because he's just an empty suit that the audience is projecting onto.
So many people really miss that, trying to engage as if Trump is the root cause, but he's not. It's the audience that needs to be engaged with.
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@volkris @jensorensen @mnutty Trump is not the "root cause" at all, but he's a vehicle for reactionary politics. The whole landscape has changed because of that. Regardless of whether he is in control or not, all that stuff that he has said have an impact. And we can't just limit ourselves to *his* explanation of what he said. The consequences have been much larger than that. We don't have the luxury to nitpick when there's so many people like him rising into power. This kind of speech should just not be acceptable, regardless of the "actual meaning". Neoliberal politics based on euphemisms and double standards are terrible and destructive, but still better than... this. Some people in my family believe in the JQ. This is serious.
@volkris @jensorensen
Vermin - nuff said. Next