@nogodsnomasters I mean, it's not that people are illegal but that people break laws
If we want to fix the laws the first thing is to appreciate that the laws are what they are, and they need to be fixed.
We get nowhere by denying them.
@Radical_EgoCom Right, so let's call out the bad laws not focus on the rhetoric around the people.
What do you mean by "not focus on the rhetoric around the people"?
@volkris @nogodsnomasters
@Radical_EgoCom Well it's what I said above: the image said that nobody is illegal but that focuses on people being illegal rather than laws being bad.
The issue isn't that nobody is illegal. The issue is that we have some bad laws that need to be changed.
I think a huge number of people in the country are all on the side of these laws being bad and needing reform. People on both the left and the right agree that the laws need to be reformed.
But all of the rhetoric focusing on weather or not people are illegal End up distracting from the positive thing that we can actually all agree on, that the laws need to be fixed.
I don't know what world you are living in, but people on the left and the right most certainly don't agree that the immigration laws are bad. It's exclusively people on the left who are against them; the right are supports them. And we absolutely should focus on the people because this is about them. The reason why we say there are no illegal people is because there are people saying they are illegal. These laws that you're against are about these people. The immigrants are the focus.
@volkris
@Radical_EgoCom I literally listen to people on the right saying every single day that the immigration laws are bad.
If you don't hear them saying that then I think that you might be living in a bit of a bubble.
The only time I hear people on the right criticizing immigration laws is when they're complaining that they aren't strict enough. I'm not in a bubble. You're the one who appears to be in a bubble where "the left and the right actually agree on the same things all along, amd all they have to do is put aside their minor differences and join together to fix the world". That's not the real world.
@volkris
@Radical_EgoCom If the only time you hear people in the right criticizing immigration laws is when they are complaining that they aren't strict enough, then you are in a bubble.
That is literally why I'm saying you might be in a bubble, because you aren't hearing all of the other voices.
Immigration laws inherently perpetuate inequality by restricting the free movement of people and maintaining artificial borders. Such laws are tools of oppression, and shouldn't be respected or "fixed" (as if they're broken, and not functioning as intended). These structures should be dismantled, and the people should create a more egalitarian and borderless society based on shared resources and communal principles.
@volkris @nogodsnomasters