BREAKING: The Colorado Supreme Court holds, 4-3, that Trump "is disqualified" to be president under the Fourteenth Amendment, and "it would be a wrongful act" for him to be listed on the Colorado presidential primary ballot. More to come at Law Dork: https://www.lawdork.com/
@chrisgeidner so much for democracy
@volkris @chrisgeidner You're talking about that time the former guy tried to stay president after we fired him, right?
@liquor_american nope!
This is about the future, preventing voters from voting their choices on future ballots, not about the past.
@volkris @liquor_american @chrisgeidner
> preventing voters from voting their choices on future ballots
You know what? I'm prevented from voting for Arnold Schwarzenegger, because he's not a natural born US citizen. That rule's also in the consitutution. You going to complain about that one, too?
Though I disagree with the original court's determination that a simple finding by one judge under the 50%+1 likelihood preponderance of evidence standard, can determine one's insurrection status, whereas conviction for the crime of insurrection requires a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard, and one has the option of defending oneself before a jury.
@artemesia actually yes I would complain about that!
I think people should be able to vote for whoever they want to, because that's how democracy works.
EVEN IF the person they are voting for is un-eligible to hold office, if that's how you want to spend your vote, go for it.
Hell, given this situation if Trump and Biden and Schwarzenegger were on the ballot I'd probably vote for Schwarzenegger! I'm with you there!
So let's just be clear that we are interfering with voter's abilities to vote for the candidate they would like to vote for. If that is for the best, great! So own it. It is undemocratic, but if we need to be undemocratic here, then let's be undemocratic.
The point is to own the choice that we are making.
@artemesia it's not because I wanna
It's a question of whether we respect the population as they vote.
Of course we don't have to, but that's the decision for us to make.
@volkris @liquor_american @chrisgeidner
You live in a republic, not a democracy, and every democracy and republic in the world specifies qualifications for its executive. Your arguments are not those of a reasonable person. "Because I wanna!" is a tantrum, not an argument. I will say no more.