BREAKING: The Colorado Supreme Court holds, 4-3, that Trump "is disqualified" to be president under the Fourteenth Amendment, and "it would be a wrongful act" for him to be listed on the Colorado presidential primary ballot. More to come at Law Dork: https://www.lawdork.com/
@chrisgeidner so much for democracy
@volkris @chrisgeidner You're talking about that time the former guy tried to stay president after we fired him, right?
@liquor_american nope!
This is about the future, preventing voters from voting their choices on future ballots, not about the past.
@volkris @liquor_american @chrisgeidner
By your standard, the US has never been a democracy.
We can't elect a non-US citizen.
We can't elect someone under age 35.
We can't elect some US citizens, if they immigrated.
But nevermind a democracy implies one person, one vote. And we deny the vote to lots of Americans (felons, often), and then weigh some votes more than others (rural states with electoral college). That's a bigger threat to "democracy" than saying an insurrectionist can't run.
@joelle agreed!
But it's not black and white.
Even though the US has never been a pure democracy, we might want to respect some democratic processes, we might want to respect the will of the voters sometimes.
And so again, when we are saying we are not going to respect the will of the voters, let's own it.
Okay, fine, we will not allow a foreign dog under the age of 10 to be elected to president. Yeah that seems reasonable.
So it's about being clear that for whatever reason Trump is terrible enough that we are going to tell voters they can't vote for him, we are going to say the democratic process is suspended for him, because he's just that bad.
The point isn't to reject democracy. The point is to say, yeah in this case we are owning up to rejecting democracy.
@volkris @liquor_american @chrisgeidner
We reject democracy every year.
When Trump was elected, it was by a smaller number of voters than the number of voters who voted against him. I.E. he lost the popular vote. If we didn't reject democracy in 2016, he would never have been in the position to lead the January 6th, 2021 insurrection against the United States and our voting process.
@joelle in the US the democratic process elects electors, not the president.
But putting that aside, it has nothing to do with January 6th.
Since Trump lost that election it's not like he was elected to lead a riot against his own election that he lost.
That story just doesn't make sense.
The rioters protested against the institutions that they had lost faith in, which has very little to do with Trump, and that's so important to realize. We really need to restore faith in those institutions.
Anyone who thinks that Trump is the center of this is really missing that the general public has lost so much faith in very important institutions, and that faith really needs to be engaged with and restored.
Trump is not the core for that. He is the empty suit that so many projected their opinions upon, sadly, taking out their frustrations upon.
Unless we understand that we're not going to be able to fix this situation and the sad impacts of the Trump presidency or just going to continue.
