So; tacitly inciting your supporters to force entry into the Capitol Building and wreck the place terrorising lawful occupants, making no contemporaneous attempt to urge them to desist, ISN'T insurrection within the meaning of the US Constitution?

Odd. Because it would appear to fit the definition offered by most English dictionaries.

Must be a "divided by the same language" thing, (Innit).

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@RejoinEU firstly, that has absolutely nothing to do with the Supreme Court ruling today. They were not addressing that question. It could very well be insurrection and yet the Supreme Court is pointing out that it's not up to states to make that determination.

Secondly, by the definition posted, it was not insurrection as it was attacking the wrong branch of government. You can't control the government through the legislature.

@volkris @RejoinEU intrigued by your second paragraph. As I understood it the January rioters were attempting to stop the ratification of Biden's win and force congress / Pence to declare Trump as the winner. Have I misunderstood?

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*Edit: Well, see my last paragraph below because what you're asking is a complicated question based on perception 🙂*

Yes, something a lot of people misunderstand: by law the EC counting is not at all ratification. It is a counting of ballots including processes for questioning ballots, so it can't be ratification because there was not yet a count to ratify.

In other words, despite what so many say, there was not an election for congress to recognize or certify or whatever word you want to use because they were in the process of going through the election. It had not happened yet.

One reason this is really important is because they were going through the process that was there specifically to avoid something like the January 6th riot, but because so many were denying that the process existed, many rioters ended up misled as to what was going on.

It's akin to somebody attacking someone else when they feel wronged because they were told that courts didn't exist so that option wasn't there for them.

Or, well this is complicated, on the other hand maybe you are absolutely right that the rioters were trying to prevent ratification, which is a shame because ratification wasn't actually happening, they were trying to prevent something that wasn't real in the first place.

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