@radiojammor in my experience a lot of people reject UBI for reasons beyond the fiscal side of it, lots of ideas about it being immoral or impractical or corrupting in its own right, regardless of how the money may be raised.
But either way it gets to the same conclusion, regardless of why they don't support it, there just is not broad buy-in throughout the population.
So if you want to move toward UBI, to focus on ways of taxing to pay for it is putting the cart before the horse. Until the public is convinced that it's a good idea in the first place, it doesn't matter how you want to pay for it, the public doesn't really want to do it anyway.
@cjammet I suspect we are seeing different people 🙂
I absolutely know that some groups are absolutely thrilled with UBI and the results and everything else. But I also hear from groups who think the opposite.
There's also the issue that even among people who see the current stage of disparity as moral injustice (which already carves out a lot of the population) there are going to be disagreements about whether UBI makes that better or worse, and then if you carve out the ones that think it makes it better, then you have the ones who think it's worth it versus the ones who think it's not worth it.
So you see it's step after step of dividing the population, until at the end you don't really end up with a consensus.
@volkris @radiojammor ubi pilots have largely been successful and well regarded from what I've seen. I would also posit that many more people see the current state of wage/wealth disparity as a moral injustice.