How is this #federation with #threads working? Going to links like https://mstdn.social/@potus@threads.net just redirect pe to the #threads website instead of seeing the account through #mastodon
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Federation with threads is disabled on this instance, as a result of a poll last year and lack of transparency from meta how they will handle our data.
@selea I definitely support that. I HATE meta. That's why I came on the #fediverse side of things, so a company can't monetize my existence on the web. But if an instance like mstdn.social does federate with threads then how is it working? By simply redirecting people?
@shellheim Well it's so important for users who don't want monetization to realize that companies ABSOLUTELY CAN monetize what you post here, and arguably can do it much easier and more effectively since everything you post is probably being delivered directly to them.
A person like me doesn't care, so it doesn't really matter to me, but if it matters to you, then you need to know that it's how this works here.
@shellheim Well for example, your post was broadcast to me, and I'm not on your instance.
Your post just as well could have been (and maybe was!) broadcast to companies set up on other instances who will vacuum up everything they receive from you and monetize that as they wish.
Once your content leaves your instance it's a free for all. No matter what policies your instance may have, most of the activity here is being publicly broadcast without restrictions on monetization.
@volkris No, I don't mean it in that 'technical'/philosophical sense. My posts aren't being used to serve me targeted ads. Nor am I being profiled so that my data can be sold be the data miners. The probability of something like that happening through mastodon is very very minuscule, if not nonexistent at a meaningful scale.
@shellheim I mean, you probably are!
Like I said, the way this platform works, your instance is broadcasting your posts to a lot of people who are perfectly able to take those posts and sell them to data miners.
With all of the posts being out there for the taking like this, I would be amazed if companies aren't out there collecting and reselling already, and haven't been doing it for a while.
The way this platform is set up, it makes it really easy for them to do that, so why wouldn't they? They get the benefits of data mining without having to bother marketing their platform building it themselves or anything like that.
We have set up a system that is ripe for exploitation, so it would be amazing if it wasn't being exploited that way.
"Well it’s so important for users who don’t want monetization to realize that companies ABSOLUTELY CAN monetize what you post here, and arguably can do it much easier and more effectively since everything you post is probably being delivered directly to them."
That's absolutely true. And I will take steps to reduce how much amlicious actors can interact with this instance.
@selea The problem is that it's so leaky.
And again let me say that this is just part of the way this system was designed. It's not about bad administration or anything else, I think it is absolutely a flaw in the design of this system.
If you have a single instance that you haven't blocked that misbehaves, that's it. The content is liable to be out there.
Unless you're willing to lock down your instance so that you only allow other instances that you personally trust and can vouch for not running any sort of compromising software, even by accident, well then your users need to know what they are getting into here.
Yes, take steps to reduce it, but even if you reduce it, a lot of users are just not aware that the option exists here.
I am well aware of the flaws, but I do what I can do reduce it.
@volkris Yeah I am pretty sure that's how it on this instance.