@TotalSonic nobody is criminalizing homelessness.
If you frame it that way you're not helping, you're just promoting this idea that most people know is false.
@TotalSonic we can't address the problems of homelessness and helping homeless people if we are busy arguing that criminalizing sleeping in certain places is criminalizing homelessness.
It's not.
So people arguing that clearly factually false statement are not going to get much purchase as they try to promote their causes.
It's a counterproductive position to take because instead of getting together behind helping the homeless instead you end up fighting about how factually incorrect it is.
@volkris - if someone has no residence, vehicle or money - how is it *not* criminalizing their existence by mandating they can not legally sleep anywhere that is within walking distance or where they will be provided no-charge transportation to?
@volkris - "nobody" - *nope* - in the USA there are in fact many local governments that are looking to criminalize sleeping outside within their jurisdictions. I support laws that allow businesses and residences to not be blocked by campers, but I am completely against creating places where there are zero options in walking or busing distances for people to legally exist when they find themselves in seriously unfortunate circumstances already.