Worth reading. Trump gutted air safety in part because President Musk wants to make SpaceX less safe and he wants less government regulation.

prospect.org/infrastructure/tr

@tofugolem sounds like you're assuming regulation necessarily makes things safer, but that's not the case. Often enough compliance with regulations can actually make things more dangerous, particularly when regulations aren't quite tailored for the situations they're being applied to.

So no, it's not about making SpaceX less safe. That's just not how this stuff works out in practice.

@volkris
Wow. You're an obedient little serf, aren't you?

They deregulated banking, and we had to bail them out.

They deregulated housing and we had a housing crash.

They deregulated railroads and we had a derailment.

They deregulated airline safety, and almost immediately, doors started flying off mid-flight.

They deregulated food safety and we got more disease outbreaks.

What does it take to break through your brainwashing?

@tofugolem

Oh I would go the exact other way with each of those examples. Deregulated? Each of those are examples of highly regulated topics where the effects you're citing can be reasonably traced back to regulation!

Each of those is notorious for tremendous regulatory regimes even through those issues, so it's really something that you would describe them as deregulated.

And immediate little serf? I'm saying not to assume that more control over us is necessarily for the best, and I'm the obedient serf?

Weird, that.

@volkris
Of course you would go the other way.

In each of those cases, America suffered, but the elites benefitted, and as a far-right sheep, anything that benefits the elite is worth whatever harm comes to those dirty serf nobodies.

@tofugolem

Indeed, I do go the other way. Because I'm not so willing to just accept the authorities telling us what they're doing is for our own good, I'm not so willing to believe the elite as they impose on you and me.

But you're into that kind of relationship, so have at it.

@volkris
Riiiight.

Except that your idea of "standing up to the elites" is to give them tax cuts so they make more money, deregulate everything so that more of us can suffer and they can make more money, and attack the unions so they can make more money.

You think "the elites" are scientists, but you worship the ones with all the power and give them everything they want at your own expense.

And what? I'm supposed to see you as the guy standing up to the establishment after all that?

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@tofugolem please do tell me where you got the material for that straw man to set up.

Where in the world did you get the idea that that was my position? Certainly it's not.

@volkris
Let's review.

You saw someone criticizing your orange God.

A normal coward would at least wait until they started losing the argument to change the subject, you ENTERED this conversation changing the subject because we both know what would have happened had you stayed on subject instead of being a bigger-than-normal coward.

Why bother putting that stuff in your profile? Who did you think would be tricked into believing any of that? You're as gutless and unmanly as the rest.

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@volkris
And please refrain from using terms such as “straw man fallacy” unless you first learn what those words mean. You will embarrass yourself less that way.

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@tofugolem

Indeed, let's review, and let's go ahead with that second sentence. Orange God? What in the world?

@volkris
Trump. I am talking about Trump.

Now, I would like you to pretend that you are not an abject coward and return to the original topic of Trump's fuckups.

Or you can just keep changing the subject and prove to everyone what you are.

Doesn't really matter to me which you choose. I have fun either way.

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