@truthbait I voted Trump twice buddy.
@truthbait Not crying bro. I didnt vote for him last election and I dont like what he stands for. I think if we had Kamala more people would snap out of it. Instead, Trump does his MIGA things and his constituents think hes an orange Jesus.
@OneEyeKing meh, the subset of his voters that think he is orange Jesus would believe it either way.
If Harris was president they would all be griping about how much better things would be if Trump had won, and probably be real annoying about conspiracy theories that stole the election from him.
But a whole lot of Trump's constituents don't actually think he's Jesus. They just thought as crappy as he is, they didn't think Harris was better.
@volkris Those people that vote for lesser evil are the reason we are here as a nation. They vote for centrist values while ignoring true conservatism. Then they wonder why we live in socialism
@OneEyeKing I think it's important to emphasize that a lot of folks aren't so much voting over values as they are voting over their particular set of facts that don't necessarily match the real world.
In analogy, you and I can both agree in terms of values that we should dress to be comfortable, but we're going to dress very differently if you believe the middle of a scorching summer while I believe we're in the depth of winter. Agreement in values, of fact.
THAT is what I would say is the reason we are here as a nation. Different groups have completely different sets of facts that they are working with, and we no longer have institutions able to sort out what is true.
People spend so much time addressing values that are actually shared without realizing the real dispute is over fact. So they talk past the actual problems.
@OneEyeKing No it's not that they are distracted, it's that they are misinformed.
They are very focused, it's just that the thing they are focused on is a lie.
This is a crucial difference.
@volkris Yea. People are distracted and not looking at what's crucial to long term success.