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Yep! I'm only a customer of any seller if I judge the value of their offering to be greater than the cost, to leave me better off than I was before.

Advertising is a factor enabling those positive relationships, so yep, good for the customers.

@trueslicky I just thought this gem from @trueslicky was especially funny.

This really captures how off the deep end so many people sound these days, with getting all the attention he's after. From people you wouldn't expect to want to reward him.

I'm willing to bet that @trueslicky really stands behind this post, so he won't mind being used as the example.

I wish people wouldn't feed into Musk's persona like this. It just keeps him on the scene.

@trueslicky The other thing I notice from your writing is how thoroughly you conflate and , as if they are one in the same.

I mean, that idea enables some dramatic storytelling, but it misses how the world actually works in important ways.

We're right to criticize the idea of corporate personhood. Well, it's just as wrong to promote Twitter to that title.

Question: one social media account vs curated multiple accounts by genre?... 

@Howard I suggest thinking of it as one account per identity, not per subject or medium or anything like that.

Hopefully hashtags and other UI tools would take care of sorting out different categories of content.

By identity I mean the difference between a professional persona vs a personal persona. Or heck, maybe even a fun fictitious persona :)

Hopefully and its software platforms will be integrated and capable enough that a person doesn't need multiple accounts in multiple places to handle different types of media. That's a goal anyway.

@trueslicky I just laugh that in your screed you managed to confirm that the boots were in response to violations.

You can argue that the policies were improper or improperly created or edited or stupid or whatever. I'd even generally agree with that.

But you yourself explained here how "Elon kicked off journalists!" is a very incomplete narrative, one that leaves so much out that it's basically false, or at the least very misleading.

So you illustrated my point in 17 bullet points.

@seldo
You seem to be still arguing against journalistic impartiality even when I went out of my way to clarify that journalistic impartiality is not part of my position.

Yes, I agree with you on this. I don't know why you keep returning to that horse.

@seldo @babak @jakobdorof

You misunderstand. I'm not talking about some ideal of journalism without bias.

But there's an enormous difference between recognizing natural human bias vs embracing intentional moralizing from those purporting to provide objective reporting.

Newsrooms lost audiences and relevance as they seemed to charge ahead into that second, into preaching.

@LinqLover I'll chip in to say I was just grumbling about a similar thing, seeing out of context posts just because they happen to mention a hashtag.

Maybe that can be addressed by people marking posts as unlisted if they're not full expressions of a thought, that would make sense without the surrounding context.

Like this post :)

But yeah, chronological hashtag display is a bit too simplistic.

@realcaseyrollins
Ha, I'd counter that it takes some amount of ego for a person to decide that he'll skip all of those other instances and set up his own.

Big tech CEO is probably, to some extent, in it for the money. The guy running his own server, though, he's _paying_ for his authority :)

I'm half joking, of course.

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@trueslicky @seldo So all of the media outfits--fellow journalists, mind you--that have reported on the violations, they're all just lying?

It's all a big conspiracy among journalists to throw each other under the bus?

Or might it be possible that maybe, just maybe, some of these journalists aren't innocent and pure as the wind driven snow?

I really don't care about . It was always a garbage site. I don't care about either.

But I really wish people wouldn't be so quick to deny facts and substitute their own realities for the sake of dramatic stories.

That does nobody any good.

@ottoflux Well I think it's good to step back and center around claims that would be more mainstream, easier to swallow for more people.

Occam's Razor does happen to point to explanations that will tend to be more mainstream. more digestible for a general audience on social media.

@schuyler1d You got it.

People engage with Twitter as it directly provides them entertainment, whether that's talking to others, or viewing media, or whatever.

I really don't think many people enjoy Bitcoin for the sake of its own entertainment.

Some, sure, but not that many.

@seldo @jakobdorof @babak Think about how that sounds to potential consumers of news.

If I want to know what actually happened in the world yesterday, and someone is offering to actively push their personal moral ideas on me, well I'm going to pass.

If I want that I'll go to a church.

I think it's fair to say most of us want something different from .

It's one thing to recognize and work to mitigate the impact of personal biases, but it's something entirely different to embrace and impose them on the task.

Either way, again, I mean this practically and pragmatically, that sort of attitude has really harmed confidence in journalistic institutions today.

"In other words, based on what we know about fentanyl exposure, it is extremely unlikely that what we saw was Bannick overdosing from inhaling in a gust of wind."

Reason Magazine  
Police say a Florida officer overdosed by being close to fentanyl. Local media bought it. "Something as simple as the wind could expose you and jus...

@trueslicky @seldo "Nobody doxxed anything. Also, here's where someone doxxed."

Twitter counts posting real time information of a person's whereabouts as doxxing, which I don't think is an unreasonable definition.

Again, regardless of whether I do or don't agree with the policy, at least we should be honest about the story, that they broke highly publicized rules of the site.

There's no sense misleading people about what happened here.

@schuyler1d Except that Twitter provides direct value to people.

Huge difference.

@ottoflux Occam's Razor would have us consider that they will continue to post on because that's simply where the people are.

No need to reach for any theories beyond that.

@sivy Well gpg keys would make more sense than ssh keys.

I really wish public key infrastructure had been built into the core of and I'm strongly critical of the platform for missing that opportunity.

But yep, it can be bolted on. I hope it will be.

That said, there is server to server cryptographic methods already involved. We just need it to be end to end.

@me @murshedz Well it's because use remains high so using Twitter remains a great way to broadcast to a lot of people.

And the ToS over there aren't THAT hard to abide by. Don't dox people and you won't be suspended. I think journalists realize it's not that hard to stay between those lines.

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