volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@benfulton it wasn't a launch pad.

It was a testing site separate from the launch pad because they knew some of these test articles would almost certainly fail.

It's a sign of competence that they didn't use a launch pad for this testing. This is how real engineering goes.

@MalcolmNance Well it was safe for humans.

Safe for the rocket? No it wasn't supposed to be particularly safe for the rocket, that's why they run these tests. And that's why they keep humans away from it while they're running them.

It was controlled. They had a controlled test of a new prototype, and sometimes they explode. That's why you put in extra controls to manage the explosions.

@Julius_VD SpaceX is providing the backup.

@mathi_gwithyas

They build rockets. And they are smart enough to go through this sort of testing knowing that there will be failures, because they're looking for those failures.

Yeah they're rocket scientists. Yes this is part of rocket science.

You have a theory about building a rocket, so you test it, and that's science for you.

@PariaSansPortefeuille

This is another one of those cases where the theory takes too far of a leap.

If the US and Israel wanted to induce civil unrest they could have done other things to get there more effectively.

Yeah we could go off on conspiracy theories about how they were hiding it by not using the more effective methods, but Occam's Razor would have us at least consider that maybe, just maybe, the simpler explanation suffices.

@iran @palestine @israel

@GottaLaff It's not a shift. They always had this commitment, they just talked about prioritizing violent offenders.

And anyway, such an appeal to democratically past laws is anti-fascist. That ought to be recognized or else they might stop appealing to the laws.

@CassandraVert they followed normal grand jury processes, with a judge watching over their shoulders no less, providing unusual levels of scrutiny to see that it was on the up and up.

@Nonilex

@paul what are you referring to?

@RememberUsAlways I don't think you understand that broad swaths of the country would LIKE what those images show of Trump policies.

Republicans are already chomping at the bit to use exactly those images to defeat Democrats.

And they're probably the ones more in touch with the public mood here. Evidence? Well, they got Trump reelected even after all of the substantial things running against him.

@FrozenPeach that's an incorrect take on what's happening here, though. And yes, Jackson does show a troubling pattern of not knowing how US courts work. She was never particularly qualified for a seat on SCOTUS.

No, the Court is not manipulating the rules to benefit Trump. What rules? The Court is absolutely free to act as it sees fit, which is a really important point when OPPOSING Trump's policies.

This came up in the birthright citizenship case, where the Democratic appointees seemed not to realize they had that authority to go against him.

Jackson may believe rules are being manipulated, but that's both factually and strategically wrong of her.

@julieofthespirits keep in mind that much of the wringing of the hands over optics is not about how cool the picture may look, but about the impact the picture may have over the long run strategically.

Even if a picture is totally rad, if it harms the effort because it's used as propaganda directed towards swaths of the population that aren't engaged, that's worth wringing over.

And that's the case here.

We can complain all we want that this is the reality, we can criticize media, we can criticize normies for being normies, etc, but in the end it is the reality.

@davidaugust.bsky.social It's a little more complicated because they will present this as an international issue, not domestic

@bruce The people of Los Angeles are not the point. Trump and Trump supporters would generally even consider the people of Los Angeles to be complicit or even supportive of what they see as occupation of the city.

To them the city doesn't belong to the people, it belongs to the United States, so they think they have ownership over it regardless of the people living there.

@ml I think it's important to focus on the larger picture the public has lost faith in journalism because journalism failed them in ways that caused them to lose faith, and the result was completely predictable. Journalism needs to fix itself.

Yes, your Muslim concerns are absolutely real and part of this picture. Unfortunately, it's really hard to address so long as journalism itself is so broken in the larger picture. If the press ever manages to change course then this is part of what it can fix.

We really need to call out journalism in general to encourage it to do better, and yes, this is one factor in that really sad story.

@gatewaypundit_official disgusting smear?

No, honestly the guy is a nasty, disgusting guy. Even if you agree with him or support his goals, he's kind of a gross guy. And again, maybe that's okay, maybe you want to put up with his personality to get to those goals. Fine.

But it's not smearing him. That's who he is.

@ksclarke I mean yes.

It was always a bad idea to take things that we want to last indefinitely and hand them to the executive branch of the United States. Doing that always relied on the whims of whatever presidents would be elected in the future.

That's how the United States is designed, and so many of us spent years warning about this.

So yep, the administration can dismantle The institute of anything it wants that have been put under its charge. That was an amazingly good reason not to put things under its charge, but we elected representatives who did it anyway.

So now can we please stop re-electing those representatives?

@jillL

Correction: like Trump knows?

Seriously, the guy doesn't know how any of this works.

@Nonilex

@RichardNairn

Honestly it might be a little bit worse yes, the US believes in checks and balances, but a whole lot of people balancing the power, checking the power, are all for it.

The system is still there. The problem is we elected people who like this.

@Yehuda

@bastardsheep not quite.

The conservative misunderstanding isn't about black and white but about magnitude. They are basically histrionic, nothing could ever be just a little off, everything has to be magnified a million times, and the same for good things: they think the economy is going to shoot to the Moon when really it might just be improved by a few percent.

Histrionic.

It's not that it's black and white, it's that every illegal immigrant is obviously a threat to the entire world order and must be treated that way!!!

I think it's important to understand this in order to counter them.