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@brianstorms sounded to me like the company is "on autopilot" because that's what @lifeinneon needed to say to make a bad joke from the anti-Musk bandwagon.

Nothing more to see here than that.

@J12t@social.coop @ben

A solution in search of a problem?

I'd also hate to further standardize on when there are so many other projects addressing different use cases.

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All Your Face.

TSA going hogwild with facial recognition is going about as well as you'd expect, "but you can opt out". YK Hong: Since folks asked what happens whenever I opt out of facial recognition, I documented it for you while going through US...
jwz.org/b/yj8C

@david_megginson

To be clear, I'm not arguing based on any libertarian reasoning. I don't actually find myself all that closely aligned with the Libertarian Party.

I'm more interested in things like worker's rights, and here internationally recognized principles among liberal attitudes. More things like UN findings than political rabble rousers.

@lucash_dev

Yes, you keep saying it doesn't have features to resist censorship after having yourself mentioned the features to resist censorship :)

You're talking in circles, man.

@lucash_dev

Well obviously all **don't** agree on the things that are CR since you and I apparently disagree!

Since Nostr has those features that absolutely resist censorship, I thing it's completely correct and unconfusing to call it censorship resistant.

It's a straightforward way to describe something that has such features to resist censorship.

@david_megginson

Well, I mean, does it give you any cause for reconsideration of your position?

We all bring our premises to the table, and bias confirmation is a strong draw, but hopefully different perspectives provide opportunity to reconsider the things we believe.

@jackwilliambell

At this point I'm not even sure what you're trying to disagree with.

You've acknowledged the problem @peterbutler brought up!

@RobertHM75

Instances like qoto.org have effectively no limit on character counts. Well, technically something like 65,500 characters.

But yep, other Fediverse platforms are specifically targeted at blog type posts that do share over to Mastodon and others.

@lucash_dev

I don't think there's much point responding farther.

The features you're recognizing here are the exact ones that I'd say allow the platform to resist censorship, making it censorship resistant, even if you personally wouldn't apply that term.

*shrug*

@jackwilliambell

Kind of like complaining that corporate restaurants have conditioned people to expect their food to be served cooked instead of having them take the one simple step of cooking it themselves, and what's the problem here?

Yep. People do like when the platforms they join provide them value. Heaven forbid.

In any case, this all just highlights that @peterbutler 's point was absolutely a thing, even if you personally prefer the problem to exist.

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Alternate universe where the '90s trend for calling things "bad", "sick" or "rude" never ended and now we compliment each other's shoes by calling them "catastrophic" and "fundamentally misaligned with my values"

@lucash_dev

So if there isn't a universally accepted definition of Censorship Resistance, you're being awfully definitive in saying Nostr doesn't offer it :)

It looks like Nostr provides alternative ways of accessing content, routing around points of potential censorship, along with built in methods for automatically routing as more relays are added.

You might not personally think that's enough resistance for your own comfort, but it IS resistance to censorship.

It does have some value, whether you think it's a great value or a small value.

@hendrik

I'm glad you posted this because I was just having an exchange with someone denying that this problem exists.

When telling people to run their own instances, this downside is being overlooked.

@chaspinrad

I suspect this is not possible as it would fall under the "no quote tweet" policy that the Mastodon developers decided to adopt.

Other Fediverse platforms could have it, though.

And it's yet another reason I think Mastodon needs to reverse that development decision.

@tsdh@emacs.ch @jchelary@emacs.ch

(Preface: obviously I have criticisms here :) so this is going to be just my little rant)

I think it channels the Twitter philosophy of being a mindless firehose where it doesn't matter what you miss because you're just expected to be having knee jerk reactions to the latest two sentence comment.

With the character limit, the content was expected to be so vapid that it really didn't matter what you missed: the algorithm would provide you something to react to there at the top, and its not like you were going to miss real information about the world in what happened to scroll by.

I criticize for maintaining much of what made kind of awful, and I hope people explore other interfaces that are more useful and healthy.

@thoughtpunks

Instances I've looked into have a preference option for a slow mode where things don't autoload.

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