volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
U.S. politics
From my experience watching conservatives, reading academic studies, and knowing Trump supporters myself, I would offer a different perspective from what so many have: Trump as the effect, not the cause.
Trumpism isn't an attempt to corrupt the government. He barely knows what the government *is* which is why so many of his efforts failed laughably. From his employees ignoring his orders through legal efforts that went to the wrong departments, he really didn't know how to get done the things he tried to get done.
Meanwhile, Trump's governing philosophy--both in words and in action--were utterly spineless, twisting to the caprices of the audience of the day.
Trumpism was an attempt to win a popularity contest, to become high school class president.
They were his voters, not Trump, who set up this situation, and the problem is that prosecution of Trump is giving renewed energy to those voters, who will still vote regardless of whether Trump is in jail.
To go after Trump like this makes it MORE likely that criminals will be in control, since the people putting them there will be energized to do it again.
Well that's just factually wrong.
This case, which I will link below so you can read for yourself, is about what multiple courts should do when a president reaches for unilateral power over broad swaths of the population.
It has little to do with vaccines themselves. This is about power, pure and simple, and about the rule of law.
Here multiple courts have told the president that if he wants to assert these powers then he has to go through the legal processes, that he can't just ignore the law and do what he wants.
Again, read for yourself here, and for goodness sake, stop going to places like Slate for honest argument.
https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-40043-CV3.pdf
Ha, it's almost like "they" are training us to prefer apps over websites :)
Well, jokes aside, companies and marketing departments do find value in being able to lock us into apps, so there is something to it...
U.S. politics
No, all of the legal drama has only given him more attention and a larger place in our psyches.
His star was fading as people wanted to focus on the election of someone who wasn't such a loser, but now the legal stuff has put him back in the center of the story, where he likes to be.
IMO it would have been better to drop the legal mess and let him slink into irrelevancy. That people would ignore and write him off would probably have been the harsher punishment for someone like him anyway.
He'd *enjoy* being the martyr in the jail cell. He'd think of himself as so damn important that he had to be locked up. And that would keep him as a force in the psyche.
How would regulations be written to practically differentiate between the two, though?
@simon@toot.supertonerecords.com
It sounds like #Bluesky made core engineering and design decisions different from those made for #ActivityPub, and so it's not trivial to make the two systems play together nicely.
In particular, Bluesky puts more emphasis on user accounts over instances with solid account portability. It's not clear how Fediverse would/should react when seeing that an account has moved its hosting to a different repository, just for example.
Not an app. A website.
I emphasize this because one of the advantages of Fediverse is its openness. Similarly, we need to focus this sort of thing on websites, not yet more locked down apps.
"Vaccinate his workforce" is a phrase that would be bad enough if it described just any employer treating workers as a herd to be lines up and medicated, but it's especially problematic when the employer is a government official.
The courts have been respecting laws against that sort of thing.
We're just not all so comfortable with such power imbalances.
Yep, and the same issues apply.
I thought it was really funny how with this week's fracas over TikTok, so many were yelling about outlawing the thing, and for every twenty voices I heard yelling to make it illegal, I heard maybe one voice quietly asking exactly how exactly that would actually be done.
The federal legislature is no stranger to passing unenforceable laws either.
California can't enforce a a law against the sun rising tomorrow. But neither can the federal government, even with all the might of the US government behind it.
Well, I would point to Web of Trust over blockchain for this particular application, but yep.
Blockchain gets you confirmations of timing that aren't so vital for social media, IMO. Web of Trust gets you the authentication without the overhead needed to run a blockchain.
You're overlooking the realities of executive branches.
It doesn't matter what courts say if the key parts of the picture aren't even in the jurisdiction of law enforcement in the first place.
The legislature in California can pass a law outlawing jaywalking on New York streets, but regardless of what any court says, California's governor won't be having cops stopping pedestrians in CA that are crossing NY streets because there are no NY streets in CA.
Even if the law is passed unanimously with bipartisan approval, there still aren't any NY streets in CA, so the law is irrelevant from the get-go, as there's nothing the executive is physically able to enforce.
Laws can only be enforced if law enforcement can reach the people involved, regardless of any theoretical or abstract issues.
Exactly, and to be clear I'm not saying federation instead of decentralization is a bad idea or a bad compromise. We just need to recognize its pros and cons, that it is a compromise.
In this particular case federation means handing content to untrusted third parties and asking them politely to respect visibility notations. That's fine so long as everyone is aware it's based on voluntary compliance.
Had the system been designed around decentralized users instead of federated instances we could have cut out the third party. But that's not the compromise they settled on.
Right, but these are different governments with different designs, different enforcement mechanisms, different legal realities.
Different checks and balances, different notions of federalism, free speech rights codified, statutory realities, legal precedents... I could go on and on.
A state can pass whatever laws it wants. Often enough the just-enacted laws will be instantly irrelevant as if they outlawed the next morning's rising of the sun.
An unenforceable statute is just that.
So let's see what happens.
There's a good chance this will be nothing but a political stunt--paid for by the public--in the end.
That's not the critical part for enabling the scheme, though. The state would need a way to enforce it, and that would be difficult.
All the firms in the world trying to sell verification services won't matter if nobody bothers going to them because the law is unenforceable in the first place.
@J12t@social.coop
Well, just as #ActivityPub is based on other standards like ActivityStreams, perhaps the place to standardize usage of ActivityPub is in a separate standard that makes use of ActivityPub.
Huh. Turns out AZ law does allow courts to reverse elections.
https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00676.htm
Well, so much depends on actual implementation.
An impossible to implement law is just bluster. Annoying, yes, and maybe even expensive to the government trying to pursue it, but it's not clear Utah's law will be anything more than whistling into the wind.
It'd be like a city council outlawing gravity. That's a nice law they've got there, but...
So we'll see. Utah's law so far is little but a political stunt.
Oh no! They DIDN'T choose decentralization, and that's such an key point here.
ActivityPub chose to *centralize* around instances.
They chose a federated model, not a decentralized one.
Had they decentralized with key focus on users there's a good chance stuff like this wouldn't be such an issue.
@shansterable@c.im
Firstly, the profit incentive is absolutely alive and well in nationalized industries.
You think NASA employees work for free?
But to the point, it sounds like you're trying to have it both ways, saying the industry is already under the control of the federal government--just look at how badly the feds have screwed it up--but what we need now is to put it under the control of the federal government--they'll fix these problems.
No, I'd say the examples you've given here are great examples of why we SHOULDN'T nationalize the industry.
Trump removed regulations and Biden forced people to work, and that's through the regulatory and processes. Imagine what harm they'd do with direct command of the organizations.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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