volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
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volkris
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I once owned a comedy shop. It was next to a hair salon.
I would often practice my pantomime skills by pretending to be a hair stylist.
But then I was told by the owner to mime my own business.
This article is fantastical in so many ways, from misreporting Court rulings through getting wrong the operation of the Court, but mainly...
This is how it was SUPPOSED to work.
That others can ignore Court rulings is part of the checks and balances that allowed us to offer political independence to lifetime appointed justices.
President after president has ignored the Court when they thought they could get away with it politically. That's just always how it's been.
There's no crisis here, just the normal functioning of the US government.
@BeAware@social.beaware.live
Defending? There's a vocal number of people here PROMOTING it!
I am specifically *not* talking about the US population who believes the election was stolen, as I said above.
Really so much of it comes down to something you put your finger on: the division between people who believe a candidate has one set of legal ways to contest an election and people who believe the candidate has a different set.
Setting aside the irrational extremists on all sides, it comes down to a matter of different sources making different claims about what the laws actually say.
That sort of factual matter can be discussed with citation to publicly available statute to help sort it out.
But a person can't sort out facts if they don't understand the others' perspective.
@dirkprimbs@me.dm
Oh believe me even with the screenshots it took me a long time to figure out what he was saying.
At one point I thought he was talking about THREE different things.
But in the end, it's all because of the really understandable confusion between instance name and user name, and that confusion even made it hard to figure out what he was seeing.
It's not that I believe in him. Honestly, I think he's all of those things but also such a god damn idiot that he wouldn't understand election law or statistics anyway.
But I do believe that when someone says something coherent (again, a mean feat for this guy), that it's best to at least consider that maybe he means what his own words say.
That's before ascribing new meanings to the words on the page.
You said you weren't sure how else one can interpret it, so here's an example of another interpretation: the simple meaning of the words he said.
@jackiegardina
I'm glad to help then. It's based on the simple reading of the words you quoted.
He didn't say to make or forge or fake votes. He said to *find* them, consistent with *we won the state*.
It's a consistent interpretation that's a simple reading of the quote, I'd say. No need to project contrary meaning onto it.
Maybe he **was** using code words, but that gets into making assumptions to get to more tenuous interpretations.
I know that's the caricature of that portion of the population that's so often promoted, but it doesn't really capture the mainstream of public sentiment pushing those actions forward.
It's the equivalent of certain conservatives who try to paint all liberals as atheist anarchists or whatever: yeah, there are those on the extreme, but it's not the bulk of those on that side of the table.
If the stolen election side was the entire half of the population there would have been SO many more riots, but there weren't, showing that those aren't quite so prevalent.
They're following the Supreme Court order, though.
In its ruling, linked below, the Court told Alabama that it couldn't be race-neutral, that it HAD to gerrymander based on race. So it did with its new map, just as the Court said it must to comply with the Voting Rights Act.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf
Again, half the country has a different interpretation, and if you want to understand the situation you also have to at least recognize that.
Even better is to go a step farther and understand the other perspective, but the minimum is to recognize that it exists and shaped all of the events then and now.
Right, there is a process *outside of ActivityPub because ActivityPub can't do what you say.*
Nostr doesn't have this process, but neither does ActivityPub!
@dirkprimbs@me.dm I don't think
those are the apples and oranges @MikeEL@mastodon.social is comparing :)
The confusion is that the Medium instance is different from the account called Medium. One's the server and one's the user, even if they have similar naming.
So really this is comparing all of the posts from around the world that the server is aware of VS the specific posts that the user goes out of their way to boost.
What this really means, the self-serving, is that the Medium user wants to promote content that has been posted to their website to gain more clicks, obviously, while their server gives their users access to a lot of content from other places.
I think a lot comes down to different people having vastly different--opposite even-- interpretations of his phone call.
People coming from different backgrounds interpreted the call differently based on their perspectives.
To understand how other people acted requires at least recognizing that.
Firstly, an instance doesn't have to be actively protecting scammers to nullify your efforts to have a scammer shut down. Its lack of action is all it takes: inaction. If the instance operator is on vacation you're out of luck.
Secondly, plenty of misbehaving instances remain federated, so that claim about being defederated quickly is also not quite true.
And thirdly, once again, if you have to rely on instance owners defederating instances, that means ActivityPub itself doesn't protect you.
Once again you're pointing out that you have to go beyond ActivityPub to get the protection you claim it provides.
Because for him walking away would mean giving up so much stuff beside the public spotlight.
He COULD give everything up, but he accepts the public nonsense as the price of pushing ahead with Tesla, SpaceX, and personal fiscal profit.
Just because he accepts that cost doesn't mean he likes it, and in appearance after appearance I see him resigning to it.
It's complicated because celebrity was and continues to be forced on the guy.
Musk could stop talking today and people would continue to hound him and shower him with attention.
To me this plays out in so many interviews I've seen with him where he is clearly uncomfortable, clearly doesn't know an answer, just wants the attention to be overwith, but some reporter or fan just keeps on pummeling him with questions, attention he doesn't actually want.
I think so much of the crap Musk does is his way of dealing with, deflecting, and/or processing attention that he can't stop.
Keep in mind that for so many ideas of justice and fairness (as they see it) and revenge overcome complaints of hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy isn't the point for these people; it's still a downside, but one they're willing to accept for the goal of (to distill it to one point) revenge.
Cute, from an older article
>But it’s the International Astronomical Union, not the International Geophysical Union. And the people who voted on the new planet classification were overwhelmingly astronomers, even if some proportion (most?) were planetary astronomers.
[Pluto is a Planet](https://www.sciencefocus.com/comment/pluto-is-a-planet}
Yeah. Legal venues. Not quite the simple matter of your actively quashing the copycat :)
This is exactly what I'm saying.
Once you start talking about having to resort to external legal venues to stop a copycat, it's suddenly not so simple, and arguably, it shows that ActivityPub doesn't have the protections you claim.
Even if AP lets you identify the hosting instance, AP doesn't actually let you stop the copycat.
It just helps you begin the process of hiring a lawyer.
uspol
The CNN article is cagey on a critical question: Was the invitation real and who was it from? It was odd how the article's phrasing kept skipping over that.
If the team does have a record of written legal authorization to test the security of the system, that puts a huge damper on this story.
That's what's suggested, so the question is whether such documented legal authorization actually existed.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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