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@LeftistLawyer I think people might be taking away the wrong lesson from this anecdote.

For one it looks like compared to the baseline the algorithm does a pretty good job of giving him what he wants to see.

For another, well maybe the baseline is serving up what the remaining people on Twitter want to see.

Not a bug, a feature.

This is another point where I just end up thinking, with so many "good" people leaving Twitter, is it any surprise that what's left on Twitter is not the good people, who have left?

Well what did you think would happen.

@SocialistStan@mymastadon.link reform, replace, whichever

At the moment the US is spending a ton of money on those programs, so get to it, trying to convince other people to stop spending resources that way.
@jeffowski

@SocialistStan@mymastadon.link Great! So get to work talking to representatives, running for office, and doing everything else needed to change the world.

But for now we are paying schools to teach a lot of things including compliance and conformity.

Complaining about it is like ordering a hamburger from McDonald's and then complaining that there's beef in it.

@jeffowski

@SocialistStan@mymastadon.link It doesn't matter what I think about it, it is what it is, it is what society has chosen.

Whether I think it's a good or bad doesn't change that it is what we're doing.

@jeffowski

@fortboise Well the voting rolls disprove that claim as Republicans voted to continue funding government despite conservative ideology, and then overwhelmingly voted to keep the House running again regardless of ideology.

I understand people promoting narratives like this that serve partisan purposes, but they just don't hold water when compared to the factual record.

@SocialistStan@mymastadon.link exactly.

So that's why it makes sense to penalize people for not hitting their deadlines.

@jeffowski

@ravirockks I don't know what you're talking about, but I suspect that in general yes, whether or not a gun shoots butter is indeed an either or.

@jeffowski Well yeah.

And ability to work within and with such systems is one facet of education.

So you are correct, and I'm glad to inform you that there's no reason to die on that hill.

Nobody who understands education is fighting you.

@ZGoldenReport there's such a track record of such reports being debunked later that it's hard to believe them now.

@grumble209 I honestly don't know why you're so obsessed with CEOs here.

But no, in general CEOs don't get to choose their own business models. That's just not how corporations operate in the real world.

@trevorflowers

@pansel_arrington

Profits do not create costs. That's just not how legitimate accounting works.

Profits are income minus costs, profits are the situation after costs are already deducted, so it just doesn't make mathematical sense to talk about profits creating costs.

Exxon Mobil may have submitted money to the US Treasury but you know where that money came from? Customers.

Every person who went to an Exxon gas station was charged to pay that tax bill. No matter how poor you were, no matter how much you were struggling to balance your checking account at the end of the month, you ended up paying that taxation which is a huge problem.

Corporations aren't people. We should not talk as if they are for the sake of taxation.

Thank goodness Exxon was able to minimize its taxation as much as it did or else it would have had to take even more from a whole lot of people who couldn't afford it.

@alanrycroft @skykiss

@pansel_arrington

Oh you're going into that whole thing about the gas and oil industry being subsidized. So much of that is easily debunked, based on these sensationalized claims that just don't really match how the federal government functions.

Those claims make for a good story, they get a lot of clicks, but they're just not reality.

But regardless of that, it still doesn't excuse what we're talking about here. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Let's get out of messing with the corporate balance sheets. Whether that's oil industry or any other. Let's just avoid that complication altogether.

You're talking about the average person versus corporations, but let's just talk about people paying their fair share, and corporations are not people.

Every bit that you tax from a corporation eventually comes from a person, so let's not go through that taxation through other steps where we cannot make it progressive because we can't control who is buying from the corporation.

@alanrycroft @skykiss

@alanrycroft keep in mind that the market considers taxation when it sorts things out.

So again, if you put taxes on corporate profits, that means the market has less incentive to pursue efficiency.

If the company is going to lose money through either buying more efficient vehicles or taxation then there's a lot less reason to do the first than the second. It's going to lose the money either way. So the market won't worry so much about efficiency.

That's the problem.

@skykiss

@uspolitics I think part of the problem is that if we push too hard to try to find positivity in otherwise pretty negative situations we end up letting officials off the hook.

Like, the folks running the government right now are really genuinely bad at it. We should stop re-electing them. Then we can have better government.

I want to highlight the negativity front and center so that these people don't get re-elected. Again.

Maybe we would be in a better place now if we did recognize how awful so many of these politicians are back before their elections, so that we would have elected better people, who made better choices, that wouldn't put us in this position in the first place.

The country is being terribly mismanaged right now. I want to highlight that because maybe that way we can get people to vote for better management next time.

I mean, should I accuse @chiclet of being a shadow supporter for extreme Republicans for not wanting to call out the Democrats supporting their cause?

No, a lot of people here. Simply don't realize what is in the actual voting rolls.

So let's raise more awareness and put more pressure on all of our representatives to stop supporting the extreme Republicans.

But we can't do that if we don't care to look at the way our representatives are actually voting.

@johnettesnuggs @realTuckFrumper

@chiclet

No, it's the exact opposite.

Democrats are supporting the extreme Republicans and I think we need to call them out on it.

It's supportive of the same extreme republicans to try to paper over the Democratic voting record, excusing it.

Instead, let's work against the extreme republicans by telling the Democrats to knock it off, and fix the problem they voted for.

At the moment, Democrats are voting in a way that puts the extreme republicans in the driver's seat. Let's tell them to stop. Let's call them out for what they're doing.

@johnettesnuggs @realTuckFrumper

@uspolitics I just don't see positivity here.

Less bad is not positive. It's just not as bad.

@chiclet

Yes. And I provided the link above so you can see for yourself that it sure is.

@dswidow @DemocracyMattersALot

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