@bigheadtales apologist? Where in the world do you get that?
I'm emphasizing the blame that presidents with open vacancies hold and I am quite frustrated that presidents aren't held accountable for those failures.
Apologist? No! I am as fired up with blame as I could possibly be!
As for McConnell, under Senate rules the majority leader can be overridden at any moment so I hate to see McConnell scapegoated like that.
If the Senate wanted to approve a nominee it could regardless of what the majority leader thought about it. But unfortunately the stories out there play into that mythos about the all-powerful leader when in reality the Senate in general simply isn't interested in passing the nominee.
The Senate just wasn't in to the nominee.
The Senate just wasn't consenting to what the president wanted.
@stevencudahy Well when the pie is in the wrong place maybe that is a failure inherent to the pie.
Like if I don't have pie but my piece is located 1,000 miles away I really don't have pie and maybe I can describe the distance as being somewhat inherent to the pie.
@europesays I mean, let's talk about both.
And let's demand better candidates.
@bigheadtales actually I think you really put your finger on it when you phrase it as blocking the consent portion.
Yes! This really does make me think of really toxic behaviors where a person might blame another for not wanting to give them attention, as if they were owed it.
It really is about consent, exactly. The president is required to get the consent of the Senate, and it's not that the people we elected blocked the consent, it's that they just didn't consent because what the president had to offer wasn't good enough.
Yes it really is a matter of consent.
It's not that consent is blocked. Is that consent has to be earned, and sometimes presidents don't do the right thing and earn that consent.
@bigheadtales and I choose to frame it as it is factually, that it's not about blocking but about approval 🙂
You talk about the GOP blocking the consent, but that's PART OF the consent, if you want to put it that way.
If the president proposes a nominee that doesn't have enough votes for approval then the nominee is not being blocked, it's just that the nominee isn't a good enough nominee and the president is required to propose a better one.
The process was not stopped at all. This is the process.
The president is required to put forward a nominee that can get Senate approval.
Republicans did not prevent the vote. The president failed to propose a nominee good enough to get a vote.
@theconversationau this article really misses what's going on in the population, falling into the same old trap of taking Trump literally if not seriously, as was the line from his last election.
But the focus on Biden and the economy here distracts from the bigger problems of general frustration with institutions that lead so many people to look for the punk rock solution that Trump represents to them, the irrational rebellion.
It's not a very big problem for the future of American democracy. That is missing what is going on. This IS American democracy representing its loss of faith in institutions.
@mhjohnson Well with regard to the old growth forests I think a lot of people are missing the opposite effect of those trees reaching the ends of their life cycles and releasing a ton of carbon as they decay.
It's not as environmentally friendly as a lot of people want to think of it as.
And yeah, wildfire risk is another issue.
@bigheadtales first, step one, president names a nominee. Doesn't appoint.
I think you might be missing that steps two through five are optional.
If the president names a compelling nominee the Senate doesn't have to do any of that, it can just simply approve the nominee any time our elected senators want to.
So it's not that the GOP blocked step 5. That's not how the process works.
The Constitution requires the president to nominate somebody that the Senate is willing to approve. It's not about blocking, it's about approving.
Any time that a vacancy goes unfilled it's because the president failed in his job to put forward a nominee that our elected senators would feel like showing up for voting for.
To put it a different way, when you describe it as the GOP blocking a nominee it's like Taco Bell complaining that I blocked to my purchase of a taco today: no, I just didn't want a taco so I didn't go there.
It's not blocking. It's that the system of checks and balances requires the president to put forward somebody that our elected officials would feel compelled to approve.
Same as how with the way the world works if Taco Bell wants my business it has to make the food that I feel compelled to eat.
@TheConversationClimate and that's why the Paris Agreement targets were never serious.
@petersuber problem here is the judgment call over whether it's reasonable to question impartiality on these grounds.
They really come across as petty accusations.
@spaceflight Well I'd say those are part of technical strengths.
Ariane was lacking in technical strengths related to agility and operational performance.
Seems like we should call that what it is.
@ericjmorey because email doesn't generally take the form of physical objects that one would pay a service to transport for them, you know, the post.
@bigheadtales the Senate is free to consider any candidate the president cares to nominate.
There is no prevention from consideration. There's merely a procedure saying that the president has to put forward a good enough candidate to get the approval of the people we elect to the Senate.
I call it a critical element of how the US government works, and misunderstanding that is a huge problem because it prevents us from holding powerful officials accountable for their actions.
What in the world are you talking about the Constitution having proven to be extraordinarily weak and fragile? I think everything we see around us shows how durable it is.
But then if you don't even understand how federal judges make their way through checks and balances, I don't think you understand current events enough to have a fair judgment of that anyway.
@bigheadtales again, that's not how the process works.
It's not about blocking; it's about affirmatively moving forward.
And no you are completely wrong about the government being designed based on assumption of best intentions by all. In fact the folks that designed the constitutional system wrote about this explicitly in the famous men are not angels paper, maybe by Hamilton himself.
No the government is absolutely not designed based on assumption of best intentions. Rather it is designed with the assumption that people won't have the best of intentions, and so they will guard their authorities and keep an eye on each other.
The whole point of the design of the US government is that we can't assume the best of intentions from politicians.
@bigheadtales you keep talking about blocking but that's not how the US system works.
Judges are only approved with the active involvement of the people we elect. It's not like they just get out of the way; instead they have to actively consent to the appointment.
So no, it's not that the process was blocked. It's that the process moved forward considering these nominations and determining that they were qualified.
And remember that the Senate is not subject to gerrymandering. That's the House.
@slightlyoff personally I would focus on standards being a matter of documentation or process rather than anything involving intent or openness.
That appreciates the standards that are either expensive to access or never really intended for widespread use, that are more exercises in staking IP ground.
And to your point it further pushes back against overly rosy perceptions of standards.
The main thing that annoys me is people pushing to adopt a standard because it is supposedly the standard when in reality it is one of many standards, and maybe not even the best of the standards on offer.
@jeffcliff Well then let's have other platforms around here make easier interfaces.
Let's out compete.
Build up, don't tear down.
@bigheadtales cripple the process? No, the people we elect are actively involved in approving those judges.
We should probably stop electing idiots.
But until we do, well, we elect these people.
We get the Congress that we vote for.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)