volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@JorisBohnsonPM I mean, the comment sets a low bar.

Better than Sunak/Biden doesn't say much.

@fonecokid presidential immunity doesn't extend to actions not allowed by the office.

@augieray yes, it's OK.

@mark_ohe that's just not factually true, though.

It's getting the accounting backwards to act as if failure to take is deprivation, like saying I lost money because I didn't mug that guy on my way into the building this morning.

No, failure to tax doesn't distort. It's a lack of distortion, it's complaining about something that didn't happen.

@mral no, that's not what the SCOTUS said.

Yes, special interest groups have made that claim, but they're lying to you.

SCOTUS in fact goes out of its way to try to counter such nonsensical claims, but unfortunately these myths persist.

@mark_ohe

@mral what?

Just because a plan is being blocked doesn't mean it's a good or workable plan.

Sometimes a plan is being blocked because it honestly stinks.
@charlesgaba

@JessTheUnstill I mainly blame the state of journalism in the country, where so many people noticed that they were being offered reporting that just didn't make sense, that came across as gaslighting, that they lost faith in the institution.

At that point, without trustworthy sources of information it's completely unsurprising that people weren't willing to believe that the new injections were safe.

@rickf it strikes me that that sort of reply is exactly why the nah rate was 40%.

So much false information circulated that people didn't have faith in it.
@JessTheUnstill @kittywifclaws

@nicholas_saunders yeah, and that's a huge part of the criticism of Chevron deference, that it gives the judiciary (along with the executive) too much involvement in questions that should be the realm of the Congress.

Under Chevron the executive and judicial branches get together to decide things that the legislative branch needs to be deciding. Rolling back Chevron is about getting both out of the way.

@hkrn

@chiraag I love that you emphasized the conspiracy in your reply.

@Weedkiller

@chiraag that's not what's happening.

@Weedkiller

@nicholas_saunders exactly, and philosophically that is the enormous reason that the court should roll back Chevron.

Well I say philosophically, but it's also extremely practically. This is the delegation issue. The people that we elect should not be allowed to escape their responsibility for sorting this stuff out.

@hkrn

@chiraag No you're getting that backwards.

You're saying the only way this is a conspiracy theory is if you ignore the conspiracy, but no, that's exactly why this is a conspiracy theory.

And it's it's bad for workers to promote it.

That's the whole problem.

@Weedkiller

@Snowshadow@mastodon.social what hook?

@Snowshadow@mastodon.social Yeah but those satellites make life better for a ton of people.

So you seem to be celebrating a detriment to the whole for the sake of a few.

@nicholas_saunders they weren't. That's the whole point.

@hkrn

@chiraag you are literally describing a conspiracy theory.

You might think it's entirely true, but that doesn't not make it a conspiracy theory. You're talking about a conspiracy. And your theory is pretty out there.

But then all conspiracy theorists promoting their narratives at least say they think their theories are true.

The key is to realize what you're promoting and how you sound to others.

@Weedkiller

@nicholas_saunders I think I set it before, but if I haven't, no the entire point of this discussion is that regulations are absolutely mutable especially under Chevron deference.

That's one of the key points here, that as different presidents have taken charge they have changed the regulations, and that is extremely problematic for the legal system.

That the regulations are emphatically mutable is the entire point here.

@hkrn

@chiraag Yes but you are factually wrong! That is what I'm trying to express to you here.

They're offering a job. Their incentive is to find somebody to fill the job because they benefit from somebody filling the job.

You don't have to go all conspiracy theory here. You just sound like a kook when you do that.

Here's a job that needs to be done, and here is the compensation that they are offering for anybody who would like to benefit themselves for doing that job, for accepting that compensation in return.

It's no more than that, so it just ends up nutty to start talking about bigger conspiracy theories around it.

@Weedkiller