volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@MugsysRapSheet it's not that simple as this is a judicial process involving multiple courts going through processes of hearings and preliminary injunctions and appeals of the injunctions.

If you really want to simplify it that way, though, the answer is no. The appeal was over an injunction that actually allowed Border Patrol in.

But again, this matter is not that simple.

@GottaLaff

@MugsysRapSheet when you go directly to the ruling you'll see that's not what they ruled, regardless of the reporting.

Here's the order for you to read for yourself. It's short.

In fact, they would have had to issue a long ruling, not a short order, had they actually ruled that officers can come in an cut razor wire.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/012224zr_fd9g.pdf

@GottaLaff

@MugsysRapSheet that's not what's happening in this legal proceeding.

The state isn't ignoring SCOTUS. It's that SCOTUS didn't say what so many are running around claiming it said.

@GottaLaff

@JaniceSelbie well, where in her rulings do you see magical thinking?

@swanksalot I mean, the Court issued plenty of rulings even while he was on the bench where other members disagreed with him.

Nothing really odd about it.

Yes, justices are wrong sometimes. That's why we have more than one, and why they're limited in their authority.

@cspcypher yeah, but then we introduce those chaotic humans to the mix, and it turns out society is not so amenable to being designed and well-ordered :)

I wouldn't say so much words of wisdom as words of someone who doesn't seem to have met humans yet.

@MisterWanko

That gets it exactly backwards.

From what the article says, people value apartment rental enough that they'd naturally pay more for them, and owners are willing to rent at those prices.

So the higher rates are natural, reflecting the value of housing.

The problem here is that the government solution stands in the way of people renting at those naturally higher prices, artificially constraining the housing market.

People value housing. These restrictions stand between people and what they want to rent.

@todayilearned

@accretionist@techhub.social hijacking the topic?

@Jayslacks wrote about his feeling that Biden was boring, so I chimed in that I wish that was the case, as his tenure has been pretty disruptive.

And that lack of boringness is something too few people are aware of, though it should be pretty significant to their voting decision.

And then you pivoted to Trump, in a very hijacky way, before starting up with namecalling and all this other nonsense.

I'm happy to chat on topic as I think there are important things to discuss there.

@thisismissem nah, the other side of the coin is that the way humans have evolved means we can adapt to it.

@Free_Press I generally hear them complaining that Biden hasn't delivered Ukraine aid effectively, and without reason to think that would change they don't want to throw good money after bad.

@jeffjarvis I wish that was the case.

We need to be spending far more time focusing on the actual reasoning presented in the decisions that the Court hands down and not continue to be distracted by stories of personal drama.

We shouldn't care about ACB's father. That's her business. We should care about the rulings, as that's ours.

@accretionist@techhub.social two reasons.

Firstly, because this is a public forum, and even if you don't care about dysfunction in the US government, others do.

And secondly, because it's social media. Prattling on is what we do here. Welcome to the party.

@accretionist@techhub.social

Again, welcome to social media!

Where you can believe anything you want, and if you don't care you don't care, and that's perfectly acceptable around here.

But maybe other people do.

And heck, maybe other people will consider that you're the Russian plant trying to move attention away from these serious problems.

But who cares? It's just social media.

And enormous amounts of wasted money out of the US Treasury, but never mind that.

@accretionist@techhub.social I'm describing the experience of working in the US government these days.

Thanks for asking for clarification, though.

Yes, it is really a frustrating time to be involved in the research community, as science is being hampered by orders coming out of this administration.

@servelan Well, how do you think it works?

What exactly do you think the Supreme Court does when somebody ignores a ruling?

@servelan Read up on the history of people and governments ignoring Supreme Court rulings.

Part of the checks and balances in the US system is that the Supreme Court, like all courts, get to issue their rulings, but they have no enforcement power.

The other branches, like everyone else, are free to ignore whatever papers come out of the Supreme Court, which is part of assuring that those lifetime appointments aren't so powerful that they become problematic.

The Supreme Court, like all courts, interpret law.
But they cannot force anyone else to listen to their interpretations.

Which is a good thing when it comes to cases that one might consider wrongly decided.

@dougiec3 No, Mother Jones is notoriously really sensationalistic and just flat out wrong in so many of its stories, and this is no exception to that.

Mother Jones is not a reliable source. That needs to be emphasized.