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@xs4me2 probably. It just wasn't very interesting.

Far more interesting is how outfits like NYTimes put out these bizarre pieces that misinform the public... and lots of people notice, which is part of why people have lost so much faith in journalism.

@jmccabe from the reporting (I couldn't find the actual submission, maybe it's just too new) it's not sounding like the argument is over immunity.

That's just a side note, saying that while this isn't about immunity, it has some similar considerations related to actions.

But right, there's a general principle that states can't prosecute federal issues because the federal government must be superior to the states. That includes official acts of a president since he'd be acting on behalf of the federal government.

Imagine if Texas had the ability to take down the federal government by arresting Biden. That's why states can't prosecute presidents, and why this removal process exists.

@Nonilex

@Daniel_Keppler

But the Supreme Court is intentionally not a representative body, that's the Congress. There's no reason at all that SCOTUS should have followed demographic developments.

It's not its role in the federal system, and that threatens to obstruct the branch that IS to be representative.

@w7voa

@crispius@mstdn.crispius.ca the real answer is: voting.

The protection against fascist packing of the court is us not electing representatives who will actively participate in such a move.

All too often Americans overlook the power of their votes--all two few actually realize how their government even operates--as we keep reelecting the exact representatives working against our wants.

We really need to spend more time emphasizing the importance of holding representatives accountable for their actions and stop reelecting the bad ones.

Too often reps will point blame at presidents and judges for their own screwups.

That applies here.

@GerhardD and ONLY for official--that is legal--acts.

That's right, a president can't prosecute his predecessor for something that was legal.

THIS is what Biden's trying to score political points by misleading his base over.

@Free_Press

@oligneisti nobody is allowing former presidents to do whatever they like.

The Supreme Court ruling specifically called for prosecuting former presidents for their crimes.

Yes, there's a lot of misinformation floating around out there, and it needs to be countered.

@jmccabe no, not really.

The argument isn't over immunity but rather whether state or federal court is the more appropriate place to hold the trial.

@Nonilex

@huxley no, it's not quite right that the Supreme Court gets to decide what is an official act.

The US legal system is built on a process of consensus both among the branches but also up and down throughout the judicial branch. The Supreme Court is just one cog in this large process.

Technically, yes, the Supreme Court could hand down a piece of paper stating corruptly that something is an official act unilaterally, but if we're really going down that road then none of the rest matters anyway, and it's all null since the Court could issue an opinion saying anything at all.
@rameshgupta

@xs4me2 I did read the article. It came across as gaslighting.

I'm looking at the video with my own eyes, but the article is assuring me that the thing I'm seeing isn't what I'm seeing.

@stochastic today's Supreme Court wrote a ruling specifically saying that the president cannot prosecute people for things that are legal.

Ruling after ruling this term emphasized the limits on the president's power.

Yes, I know there are a lot of people lying about what the Supreme Court said this term, and you should not believe them. They are lying to you. Read the rulings and you'll see that a whole lot of people are spreading lies.

This Supreme Court wrote rulings specifically saying that Trump should be prosecuted.

Again, there are a lot of people lying to you these days. Go straight to the source and realize that you should not believe the people spreading that propaganda.

@xs4me2 checking out the video, it was clearly parody.

There's no question about it.

@Newk Trump also advertises voting. Is voting a scam?

There's an old fallacy about the proportion of serial killers who drink milk...

@MichalBryxi yep, so in my opinion we need to move to ranked choice voting. Sounds like you probably agree.

But the point is, The two major party system emerges as a way to mitigate problems with first past the post voting. It's a solution, not a problem. A better solution would be some sort of ranked choice voting, but until we get there, we will naturally have two parties because that's the next best outcome that voters will choose.

We can use displeasure with the outcomes of two-party results as a rallying cry for better voting system. But we can't attack it directly without losing that mitigating factor.

@rbreich first of all they increased revenue collections to the US Treasury, as predicted.

But secondly, what do you think a stock buyback is? It's a corporation giving up its money into the rest of the economy, which is what we want them to do in general anyway!

Stock buybacks are a good thing, as it represents a corporation taking money that it has that it can't use and giving it up for other people and other purposes to use as they need.

Including the US government.

@lety Well what specific quotes from her press releases are you referring to?

Lashing out at Trump doesn't make it clear. There's a whole lot of bullshit that lashes out at Trump.

@Snowshadow@mastodon.social what in the world are you talking about?

Just misconstruing what I have written, messaging me privately, and then complaining when I respond?

Dude, that's not the Russian Masters being involved. That's just normal discourse. I'm sorry if you don't like humans talking.

@lety but, what she 's put out in the last couple of days has been as bullshit as ever.

So again, I'm wondering what you're talking about.

@stochastic there's nobody that can give the president that power though.

Like, even if Congress wanted to, which it won't, but even if it did, Even Congress does not have the power to give the president the power to be that way.

It's just not possible under the US system.

And not only is it not possible, but it is emphatically not possible, it is intentionally not possible for that authority to exist.

It doesn't matter if people advocate for it, they might as well be advocating for perpetual motion, so all of these conspiracy theories are just sensationalism and nonsense.

@Snowshadow@mastodon.social with so many conservatives flat out rejecting project 2025 I don't know how your stance stands

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