volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@mikeash I mean everybody?

If Trump is saying he's going to lock up these people, he's lying, he doesn't have that authority. If other people are saying Trump is going to lock up these people they're lying too.

When you see all these groups wrestling in the mud, none of them are clean, and it's worth calling them all out for really antisocial stuff.

@FantasticalEconomics

@servelan of course he does.

He's a hack.

He's a guy who used to be legit, used to provide reasonable advice, but in the years since he just says whatever the political winds advantage him to say, no matter how outlandish and nonsensical.

We really need to call Robert Reich out for this kind of thing these days. I really wish he had stuck to legitimate policy analysis, but he left that track long ago.

Now he just sprouts nonsense get attention, I guess.

@FantasticalEconomics

So?

I mean he can't. EVEN IF you think he is actually threatening people like that, which sounds like sensationalized nonsense from special interests trying to mislead you, it doesn't matter, because presidents don't have that sort of power.

So he can't.

You're being lied to, and you should stop listening to whoever you're listening to because they are lying to you.

@kdawson so the other side of the aisle, The one that Trump is speaking to, their perspective is that Harris 's hopes of winning the election appear to be crumbling.

You need to realize that to interpret whatever Trump is saying.

Yes, the world is nuts. But that's what we're working with.

@GottaLaff

@waldoj The critical thing to keep in mind is that Biden's administration was on board with the move.

It's not that Trump is above the law. It's that the Democrats apparently don't care about pursuing this.

We need to hold Democrats accountable for this.

@pixel The problem is that she keeps trying to run on things that happened during Biden's administration.

You say in your opinion that she already shook it, but no, she's campaigning on doubling down on it.

That's the problem, and that's why Democrats never should have nominated her. She's stuck with it.

@gearhead the Supreme Court ruling went out of its way to say there was no blanket immunity, and it even actively promoted prosecution of criminal acts.

Yes, lots of outfits misreport that. We need to stop listening to them.

@samohTmaS again, your interpretation is absolutely ridiculous if nothing else because it would allow any president, including Donald Trump, to dismiss any justice that didn't cooperate with him.

No, that's not how the US government works. That's not how any of this works.

And it's for excellent reason that the US government doesn't operate the way you're talking about, otherwise presidents have unilateral control over the courts, which absolutely violates the independence of the judicial branch.

No, you're just wrong here.

@libramoon

@MugsysRapSheet I don't know why you keep saying I'm trying to defend Trump. That's the opposite of my position. I'm happy to clarify that, but it seems like you don't want to hear what my position actually is.

So you have the Supreme Court ruling backwards. The Supreme Court ruling explicitly and emphatically talked about prosecuting Trump and other future ex-presidents. The Supreme Court was all for prosecuting Trump.

If the defendant wants to claim the official duties protection then they have to prove that the action was part of official duties, not the other way around.

You're getting your facts backwards here.

@acwhite Right, and they say they are protecting the voting system.

Again I agree, it seems that they do know exactly what they are doing and why, and all indications are it is to protect the voting system.

You can point to the rank and file, you can point to the lawyers, you can point to the judges, you can point to your favorite sandwich maker at your favorite sandwich shop, whatever, yeah, they do seem to be proceeding with the motivation of protecting the voting system.

Everything else comes across as a strawman argument.

@acwhite that comes across as a nutty conspiracy theory like the faking of the moon landing.

Oh those conservatives, they're all in on it. All of them know that they're all telling this lie, and yet weirdly even though so many of them are so utterly stupid, it's weird how the conspiracy theory hasn't been revealed by any of the millions of conservatives who all buy into the proposal.

No, that's just silly. Millions of conservatives expressing the same viewpoint, and yet none of them have slipped up and told us about the organized effort to hide their thinking?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes there is no conspiracy theory. Sometimes a political orientation is just being honest about what they believe, about their thinking.

Occam's razor would suggest that we maybe take them at their word especially when it just makes plenty of sense.

@persagen It's pretty funny, the idea that we should let Sanders, a consummate insider, choose who we can and can't hear from.

This is exactly why citizens united was the right decision.

@MugsysRapSheet That's absolutely not true though. Nobody gave anyone unchecked power.

In fact, it's the exact opposite, regardless of what the breathless special interests are trying to misinform the public with.

You're being lied to, and you need to stop trusting whoever you're hearing this from.

@IAmDannyBoling I don't think you're appreciating the way this is working out.

The Supreme Court merely said that presidents have to follow the law. Okay. It's not that crazy idea.

So this is Biden (he controls the military) making a claim that Congress doesn't require this cleanup.

That's not about the Supreme Court. That's about Biden making a choice, and he needs to be held accountable for it. And if he's right then your Congressional representatives need to be held accountable for not megan better laws.

You're focused on the wrong branch of government. It's the other two that are the problem here.

But we keep reelecting officials who let us down, so I guess we're okay with it. Yay democracy.

@WarnerCrocker

Saying things like that plays into his game.

What he means is that he and his supporters are confident that they have the backing of the public, and they're wrong, they're out of touch, disconnected from reality.

The way to oppose Trump is to point out that he's a loser who lost and lost over and over because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

The strategy of promoting conspiracy theories is the kind of thing that turns up the heat for his supporters and he can work with that.

The sort of reaction that you had here? Yeah, that's how we got Trump the first time, and that's how he landed within striking distance of a second term.

@rbreich has this completely backwards, as usual

Employees having the freedom to sign non-compete clauses lets them have more opportunities for jobs and negotiate for higher wages. Biden's administration sought to take this freedom away.

The court's ruling gives workers back their power to negotiate their labor as they see fit.

Even if Reich would rather impose his personal preferences on workers to not let them have that option.

@acwhite Republicans don't hate the idea of Americans voting. Quite the opposite.

They think they are protecting the system of Americans voting.

If you don't understand the enemy and how they think you can't properly counter them.

@TallVenti

In general the BBC doesn't really seem to understand US politics or the US system of government because the British system of government is so fundamentally different.

I listen to BBC World Service all the time in part to get a sense of how international audiences are perceiving US events not because they're right, they so often are completely wrong, but to see how their perspectives color what they think is happening.

It's pretty interesting sometime. Completely wrong, but pretty interesting.