volkris @volkris@qoto.org
Since I guess everything is political these days, I'll identify as extremely liberal but without a home in US politics.
Mainly, there's so much misinformation out there that people in society have trouble even organizing into coherent political groupings. So I'd rather not talk about politics but instead focus on information and education. Nothing else matters until the bedrock of fact is buttressed.
But... people are always going to be wrong on the internet, as the saying goes.
So: Old man yells at clouds is a famous joke from The Simpsons, and it probably fairly describes what we do when venting on social media.
Just speaking into the void, since I figure it's an exercise in futility to conduct discussions on these platforms.
Joined Dec 2022
@HeavenlyPossum so if you think about it none of that has anything to do with anything I said.
@True_Heresy Hi. Welcome to reality.
@PFox so here's the thing, news flash, Trump says a lot of things that aren't true.
@jensorensen The ACA is not on the ballot this election, for better or worse.
Yes, there has been misinformation about this to scare people. We need to push back against that misinformation.
Whoever told you this was fear-mongering and manipulating you, and you should probably stop listening to them.
@Infrogmation you notice how that quote doesn't logically imply the headline?
No, that quote doesn't admit that. It's a straw man argument that requires a logical leap to get to a sensationalized headline.
@True_Heresy you are literally describing Musk making things.
What you describe is Musk making the environments that support those engineers. That's not nothing! Without workshops and funding and management the best engineers in the world are completely wasted.
It sounds like you really don't appreciate how the real world works when it comes to going from engineering talent to actual results.
The most capable machinist ever to have lived will get nothing done if he doesn't have tooling to operate. And that's what capitalism is all about, investing the resources to get the machinist what he needs.
@HeavenlyPossum I mean, the factual record shows that he did.
Imagine knowing history.
@True_Heresy I mean the history shows that's factually incorrect. @HeavenlyPossum @CheapPontoon @dagb
#Poll #USPol
@arth that has nothing to do with the election. If his passport needs to be confiscated but it hasn't been, well that's a failure for the Biden Harris administration.
If they suck so badly that they can't trap Trump, well what good are they.
@manton seriously? For the last week for campaign has been in freefall.
@anubis2814 ... The border conditions were mandated by legal agreements that predated Trump, they were Obama policies and the facilities were set up by Obama, and Biden has continued them.
This story just makes no sense. It's not how the US government operates, and it's not how recent history has gone.
Yeah, Trump is awful, he's a loser, but this kind of argument isn't convincing to anybody who knows what has happened in the last couple of decades.
Harris has openly promised to defy the democratic process, so when you talk about fascism, this story gets it wrong. Whoever told you this stuff was lying to you.
@drrjv firstly, it's not going to happen. Trump doesn't have the authority or the intelligence to gain the authority to make such a thing happen. Presidents just can't operate that way.
But more importantly, what Musk is pointing out is that the math just doesn't add up. The inevitability is mathematical, there's really no way around it.
It's as reprehensible as suggesting that somebody needs to take appropriate medications to address a health problem. Yeah, the meds might not be pleasant, but the alternative is even worse.
The math for the US government is pretty bad. Something will break. There's no option for just continuing like this.
So what do we do? Well we'll do nothing until it collapses on its own. Because without political will we will run out of runway.
@mhjohnson I actually had similar problems happen to me personally
@tuban_muzuru kind of proving my point there
@Darryl Yes she does!
I've heard her brought up that stuff on multiple occasions!
@BrianJopek they're making fun of you...
@newsopinionsandviews It's so funny that Harris stands up there sounding like she's pretty obsessed with revenge and grievance talking about revenge and grievance.
@realTuckFrumper If you think they're fuming I think you're really not reading the room.
They're laughing at this stuff from him.
@cheeaun Yeah the way I always put it is that AP is engineered around instances while AT engineered around users and content.
I think that's the simpler way to explain the same thing.
@schizanon It's not a lie at all.
This is how the system is engineered, and whether or not that has taken off or not is a different question.
Since I guess everything is political these days, I'll identify as extremely liberal but without a home in US politics.
Mainly, there's so much misinformation out there that people in society have trouble even organizing into coherent political groupings. So I'd rather not talk about politics but instead focus on information and education. Nothing else matters until the bedrock of fact is buttressed.
But... people are always going to be wrong on the internet, as the saying goes.
So: Old man yells at clouds is a famous joke from The Simpsons, and it probably fairly describes what we do when venting on social media.
Just speaking into the void, since I figure it's an exercise in futility to conduct discussions on these platforms.
Joined Dec 2022
