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@Craktok I have no idea where you are getting that

@Gustodon

A problem is It's not just the ultra MAGA base but also more mainstream Republicans that otherwise would not have supported Trump but are joining his cause because they feel that these indictments are improper.

It's so important to realize that these indictments are gaining Trump support from quarters that would not otherwise have supported him at all.

@stopgopfox@libretooth.gr

@stopgopfox@libretooth.gr

Well the statistics and the polling support the claim.

And I don't know why this is particularly controversial. Here on the internet we used to have a phrase, don't feed the trolls.

Well, Trump is basically king of the trolls, and these indictments are the best feed he could hope for.

The guy thrives on attention and controversy, and these indictments are exactly attention and controversy. They are exactly what he wants. They exactly pay into his mode of operation.

@Craktok

No I'm not confused about the prosecutions happening to Trump, I am entirely on board with the notion that he broke multiple laws.

And no! Not everyone gets charged when they break laws. That's up to the executive as to who gets charged and who doesn't. We all break laws every single day. Just look at the number of people who speed on the street everyday without being charged. Prosecutorial discretion is a thing.

So at the end of the day there is a real question to whether society is better off or worse off if Biden charges Trump with crimes, considering that those charges are helpful to Trump's campaign, helping him get closer to being elected president.

Personally, I would rather Trump have gone on to live out his days ignored as a ridiculous former president now wasting away on a golf course rather than potentially being reelected due to the attention brought by these charges.

If these charges mean that Trump might be reelected, which they very well might, I would have rather not brought the charges if it meant him not being reelected.

@Threadbane

Well that's an interesting religious perspective you have there. I just don't share your faith in that notion.

@Threadbane

More to the point, it's not that I stand for ideas that you disagree with, it's that I stand against enforcing your or my personal opinions on other people like that.

It's not that I'm particularly in favor of one style of education or another, but that I am against blocking other people from having access to the forms of education that they think best.

I'm happy to support you in promoting educational options for children and their parents. I just don't think that you should be allowed to take educational options away from other people.

@vy

@aro

I mean, did Instagram ever have a point?

It always seemed amazingly useless to me, so to say it is getting more and more pointless is like saying zero is getting less and less.

@Threadbane

Better to give people options for better educations for their kids, even if you yourself would impose restrictions because you are personally against them? I think so.

Again, I'm sorry you are afraid of these people, if you are leaning into this Barry Goldwater quote, but just because you are personally afraid it doesn't strike me as very good reason to keep better educations away from children.

I would generally just keep government out of those decisions.

@takeitev

*sigh* I took the time to look it up. It was a Chevy Bolt, an EV, that went into limp mode from a full charge in around 50 miles.

I don't remember exactly which out of the way country gas station we had to leave it at, or I'd be able to get you exact mileage, but me glancing at a map, it was around 50 miles.

@hornblower

@Threadbane

*shrug* if public schools can do better then they should, and this wouldn't be an issue in the first place.

@vy

@Threadbane

Otherwise it'll be you judging other peoples' kids...

Keep in mind that your projection of your own values on kids isn't particularly compelling.

@Craktok

I just wish we had better options than these two jerks, and I wish Biden wouldn't engage in these prosecutions that make Trump so poised to even potentially be reelected.

@textualdeviance

Right exactly! 3 USC lays out the process that Trump was following!

Or maybe attempting to follow, if he wasn't such a moron.

But the point is, that statute is exactly what lays out the reason it's folly to charge Trump with these indictments.

@textualdeviance

You're making a lot of assumptions, and you know what they say about assumptions.

But where did you provide any of the USC? I did not see that. Apparently Mastodon decided to hide that for some reason.

@hornblower

Well I don't think it's really interesting to specify, but it was a rental car and off the top of my head I don't remember what model it was. I want to say it was a Chevy? But I honestly don't remember.

When we started off the range was something like 600 mi but it made only something like 50 miles before it died.

So like I was saying, seriously a big malfunction.

@takeitev

@textualdeviance

You are incorrect, sir.
By law Congress is absolutely empowered to question and debate the certifications brought to it to determine whether the states did or did not legally properly certify a slate of electors.
That is the entire point of the law that was set in statute to resolve such questions.
So again, you seem to be begging the question, assuming the set of electors when the set of electors is the question that was on the table.

@Threadbane

Fine! If the students aren't better served then they won't attend those schools, so the whole question is null.

@textualdeviance

Again, you're begging the question since Who is the real elector? is exactly the question that was to be adjudicated.

@vy

... teacher friends of mine? I mean I'm not interested in outing them by name...

@Threadbane

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