@moira I would generally agree, except I take it a step further and think that it might be kind of a learned behavior, where he has been doing it so long with positive reinforcement that he might not be able to actually stop now.
It's a kind of thing that seems to have. Happened to so many public figures over the years, where they adopt kind of a caricature for the cameras and over time end up becoming the thing that they at first were just pretending to be.
It doesn't really matter either way, but personally I suspect Trump has become the moron he was initially pretending to be.
@MadisonMonkey because maybe we don't like that sort of authoritarianism?
@SARS2PA
@moira The funny thing is, whenever I see a post like this, I never know whether the quote is going to be coherent or not.
I never know whether to feel positive or negative that Trump has managed to actually convey a coherent thought.
One hand, hey! Congrats on stringing some words together. On the other hand, these are the words you chose?
@alexlac51 later
@BlueWave_Surfer@mastodon.social Yeah, holding politicians accountable for their actions is something I just think is really important, so I do try to repeat that refrain as often as I can!
So once again, you're talking a whole lot about someone who it sounds like has met the result of his actions, so that's done, so how about we talk about all the ones responsible for the new speaker, the Democrats who voted with the crazies to empower them and elect this new speaker?
How about the things those Democrats did? McCarthy has been held accountable, so now let's hold Democrats accountable?
@alexlac51 not great!
Social media has never been a fantastic source of grace and light.
@realTuckFrumper fortunately we don't rely on Speaker of the House to dictate science policy.
He might also have awful taste in food, and similarly we don't count on him for a restaurant recommendations.
We really need to stop inflating the roles that these politicians play.
@alexlac51 so the second question, how do you see that working out?
@alexlac51 I mean, what would you have had him do, and exactly how do you see that working out?
@BlueWave_Surfer@mastodon.social and so instead Democrats voted so that we got this guy as a replacement.
Again, let's hold Democrats accountable for what Democrats did.
We can't let them get a pass by focusing purely on what Republicans do. Republicans are going to be awful, fine. But we need to hold Democrats responsible for what Democrats do, especially when they amplify that awfulness.
You don't like how Republicans are protecting Trump or whatever? Fine! Let's hold Democrats responsible for actively promoting that with their votes.
@BlueWave_Surfer@mastodon.social I appreciate your consistency in trying to focus on things other than Democrats' actions, but I really do think they need to be held accountable for what they did.
Heck, It sounds like you are quite opposed to Republican perspectives, so you should be especially interested with holding Democrats responsible for empowering them.
If Democrats had not actively chosen to vote the way they did, this speaker would not have been elected.
If you don't like this speaker, great, let's make sure to hold Democrats responsible for actively voting such that he got elected.
@timberwraith I mean, history debunks those claims.
Political instability in the region long proceeded the oil boom.
@SocraticEthics "Starlink will provide communications for internationally recognised humanitarian organisations"
That's a pretty darn important piece of context left out of the post.
@david_colquhoun but what does creating graduate quality jobs mean? Sounds like it's overlooking the very purpose of jobs in the first place.
@BlueWave_Surfer@mastodon.social of course it works that way. It's written right there in the rules that govern the selection of a speaker.
Democrats voted with the Republican nut jobs to to kick out McCarthy and then declined to support any electable moderate candidate, setting the stage for this election through their voting strategy.
So the whole House elected this guy and maybe if we held Democratic representatives more accountable for their actions we would have had a better result.
So long as we let them off the hook, well, we got the government we were voting for.
@BlueWave_Surfer@mastodon.social we really need to emphasize that the Speaker of the House is elected by the whole House, while parties elect minority and majority leaders.
If the general public realized that maybe we could have pushed our elected representatives to work together and find a consensus candidate.
@napocornejo specifically, which crimes have they committed?
@Viking Yeah, I think Wendover's videos have taken a drop in quality trending toward opinion rather than fact lately.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)