volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@icedquinn that's a realization that I wish more people would come to.

Not only do so many protests seem pointless in the first place, but so many are counterproductive, actually hurting their own causes by pissing off people they inconvenience.

All too often protests are just parties full of people who don't realize the negative impacts they're having.

It's pointless at best.

@scottsantens is that the myth, though? I'd think the criticism is that it's giving money FOR nothing, not TO DO nothing, which is a very different statement.

@cra1g can you point to a right winger promoting EMTALA forcing protection of unborn children?

I haven't heard rightwingers pushing that, so I wonder if maybe you misunderstand, or even if THEY misunderstand.

@fogmount that's not how the House functions, though, in the real world.

Yes, Johnson could have pushed the bill to the floor, a number of different ways, but each would have had serious direct and indirect drawbacks ranging from opposition from the House Rules Committee through yet another rigmarole over the motion to vacate.

And all without a guarantee that the shoved-through legislation would pass anyway due to the violation of norms.

The opposition to Johnson's proceeding without significant majority party buy-in would have had substantial negative repercussions to the whole chamber.

It took this long to build the coalition needed to move.

@sushubh this sounds like one of those cases where the report is conflating weak evidence with no evidence, which undermines its own reporting.

It's all too common in journalism around the world these days.

@bohnsdorfer55 as I said, the law has become quite a mess over time.

You're putting your finger on some of the mess that US courts now have to grapple with every day.
@ChemicalEyeGuy @TheConversationUS

@housepanther@goblackcat.social firstly, that's certainly a leap, looking at indirect aspects outside of the city's purview.

But more immediately, even if that's the case, it's not part of the issue before the court.

Heck, there's hardly a punishment in the ordinance in question, see the end of the appendix here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-175/275911/20230822105225753_Grants%20Pass%20Pet.%20App.pdf

@SherBeareth

@ClevelandRock

::shrug:: if the people want to elect a prisoner, well, yay democracy.

@cwdolunt I don't really care what Trump's people claim. Often enough they don't know what they're talking about.

They can say whatever they want. Chances are they're just mugging for the camera to support Trump's reelection campaign.

@MugsysRapSheet just because Trump would be awful doesn't mean Biden is not also awful, in different ways.

In fact, I'd say the chaos of Trump meant he shot himself in his foot, preventing himself from doing a lot of awful things.

Biden has seemed more capable of actually doing his awful things.

It's the choice between an ineffective idiot or an effective idiot. I'll take the ineffective one.

@br00t4c

@housepanther@goblackcat.social well it's not really the place for the Supreme Court to side for or against the individual. As a court off appeals its job in cases like this is to judge lower courts, not individuals like Cruz.

The question is, did the lower court err in its ruling? Did the lower court misapply the law or misread it?

In the end, though, no, Cruz was not punished for being homeless. That's simply not what the regulation applies to.
@SherBeareth

@bohnsdorfer55 well it's more a 5th Amendment, takings clause issue.

You'd be devaluing the property by not allowing the company from serving its customers for profit as it sees fit.

But that sort of thing is really muddled in US law, and has been for a long time.
@ChemicalEyeGuy @TheConversationUS

@ChemicalEyeGuy no, I don't think it's the lack of critical thinking skills at the core here.

A more direct problem is that people noticed that well known news outlets were reporting things that they knew to be false, to the point where people lost faith in those outlets.

Platforms like TikTok rose to fill the vacuum.

We need journalism to improve, to regain the trust of the people through valuable and accurate reporting.

There is no substitute for this. Without reliable journalism everything else is up for grabs, and we need to forcefully tell journalists to their faces that they put themselves in this position, and they can fix it.
@TheConversationUS

@Itchy IMO we should always have been emphasizing that the president is elected by the Electoral College, and we know for certain how each elector voted, so we know for certain that Trump lost.

None of the other arguments even matter.

This is one of the huge advantages of the EC system, and we should be emphasizing it.

@ClevelandRock well right, and the example of trying to influence the makeup of Student Council like that is exactly why we don't have such tests for running for president.

We let voters decide who they'd like to head the executive branch, even if that choice might not reflect the preferences of some powerful council who'd otherwise gatekeep.

@cra1g what specifically do you have in mind?

Sounds like opposing this federal rule would be consistent with states' rights arguments.

@wjmaggos that's not really consistent with how ActivityPub is designed in its core.

It's really designed around instances, not identities, so you'd run into problems trying to share identities across instances.

@kayleeserenada to be clear, the argument is specifically not about criminal fines or jail.

It sounds like the regulations were cognizant of the need to strike a balance as they managed public spaces.