volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
@pomegranate_stew because they were nominees who had the support of our elected senators?@uspolitics
@gregggonsalves No, it's just people being held accountable for the agreements they made when they signed up.
If they didn't want to live by the rules of the institution they shouldn't have signed up for the institution.
@mcnado when you resist looking at the bigger picture, when you resist the context, then yeah, you are saying things about not examining the bigger problem.
And that's why your post comes across as so laughable.
No, I was talking about the other half of your statement.
I don't vote for bad candidates.
And it's important to emphasize that because primary voters need to keep in mind that if the primary elects a bad candidate, they will lose votes.
Republicans chose Trump, and Democrats chose Biden, and I will not vote for either of them, so it needs to be emphasized, Republicans and Democrats, you'll get more votes if you nominate better candidates.
@BowsacNoodle Right, and then immediately insert all of the reasons why that study was dumb, had a methodology that didn't actually prove its conclusion, and call out people citing that study on social media as bias confirming even though it didn't actually confirm their biases.
Every single representative was elected by the people. We should stop electing people we don't want to actually represent us.
But it's up to us.
It's so important to recognize that we are choosing these people.
We should not act like we don't have power, because we are the ones using our power to elect these people.
And if we don't like these people, we should stop voting for them.
@sj_zero I certainly don't.
If a primary chooses a bad candidate then I don't vote for them.
@realcaseyrollins I'll joke back that, plot twist, #Trump is lying about his wealth anyway
@sj_zero that ignores that voters have a say in it all
@mcnado Well it might be nice to talk about why it happened, but never mind that, you want to go for the simplistic story that doesn't look into context or background or cause or anything else.
@Geoffberner you talk about change, but this isn't about change. This is about what is.
Every one of these politicians was voted in. In fact, a whole lot of them have been reelected because apparently we like it this way. Apparently we decide to keep electing the same people because we like the way they are performing in office.
You're talking about a driver of political change, but in reality we are actively deciding to keep voting for the status quo. You talk about change, but we are voting to keep things the same way.
You say voting is a driver of political change. What I'm trying to highlight is that voting is why politics don't change.
We keep electing and re-empowering these representatives.
@Incognitim I mean right! The concurring opinions dispute your position!
Yes! Pull your head out of the sand and stop promoting these conspiracy theories that just don't match reality.
@Incognitim and maybe I also haven't believed flat earthers pointing out that the Illuminati controls the world?
No, it's not that I'm so intense on believing that the system hasn't been hijacked. It's that I hear the conspiracy theorists drop their conspiracy theories, but I actually read what comes out of the court and see that those extreme claims just don't hold up to the facts.
I'm sorry if you have fallen for the conspiracy theories, but come on, read the public record, it debunks all of that nonsense.
I wonder how well YouTube sharing goes on this platform.
@RunRichRun Biden's Treasury said otherwise, though, that the tax cuts did live up to their promises, as Treasury collections increased as expected.
@TMRuppert I think you're confusing honoring with recognizing.
So very often, we recognize people for both their positives and their negatives as a way of expressing that we all need to do better.
That's what I hear from these discussions.
@forpeterssake
@realcaseyrollins nobody wants to not hear back for three days, but I'd rather that than be limited to only those who happen to be on their phones right as I message them.
Yes, I want it now, but also, for a quality match I'm willing to have patience, AND on the other hand, I would want a partner to have that patience as well.
So yeah, like I said, provide an indicator about how many people a person has messaged.
If I can see that someone has messaged a ton of people one night, then chances are higher that they'll ghost if I bother responding.
@Free_Press you have it backwards.
The Title IX regulations Biden has proposed would threaten due process for LGBTQ students as well, so restoring those rights would be a good idea.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Even the idiot that Trump is occasionally stumbles into the right answer.
@mcnado Indeed!
It IS a choice to make a more considered understanding of a situation that might be important, for example, one where children are dying.
Or, you know, if that's not so important we can just stick to the vapid slogans. Whichever.
Personally, I think that's important enough to think more deeply, but you do you.
... every politician has been voted in.
Every one of these representatives has been chosen by vote, and most have been re-empowered by vote after their previous actions.
We could vote for different people. We could vote for change. We will when we want it.
Or we'll keep voting for the status quo.
Yes, voting is the driving force behind political change. And it's the driving force behind maintaining the same old.
We get the representatives we elect and that we re-elect, rewarding the lack of change.
They're our votes to use as we wish.
@Incognitim you're comparing apples and oranges, though.
As I said above, different cases have different levels of complexity and different contexts.
It sounds like you're so focused on outcome that you're completely overlooking how the system actually works.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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