@light I'm kind of pointing out the opposite here.
These Trump supporters thought that the markets would crash without the Trump tariffs. That the markets didn't crash means there's something they got really wrong about how the world works. If they were reasonable they would sit back and reconsider their beliefs, but they won't.
Whether or not the market is gospel, these people made predictions that didn't come true which should be time for some self-reflection.
Mainstream republicans actually believed that the tariffs would be GOOD for the economy and for business.
To the point where they were surprised that the stock market reacted positively to the Court ruling against them.
Not that this will have them question their assumptions... but it should!
It's a mainstream Republican position that these tariffs were actually good for the economy. A lot of his economically ignorant base actually believe the economy will do worse now.
It's an isolationist theory. They believe that blocking international imports means more domestic production and economic activity, even for other countries.
In fact, some commentators actually expressed surprise that the US stock market didn't tank after the announcement.
He can't just refund the money to Americans since he didn't take it from them. It goes back to the specific entities he overcharged at the border.
Otherwise it's still theft, just with the ill-gotten gains being handed to a third party.
I have this link handy to give a state of play.
Yes, Trump is admitting defeat and abiding by the ruling, which highlights other LEGAL ways that presidents can impose tariffs.
But no, turns out the different legal approach isn't one of them :)
Looks like he's about to botch it again.
https://reason.com/volokh/2026/02/21/andrew-mccarthy-on-why-trumps-section-122-tariffs-are-illegal/
Not quite. The 6-3 majority did NOT join this part of the opinion.
Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson rejected the extension to the major questions doctrine, writing separately specifically to reject it.
Only the main judgement got 6. The question of delegation only got 3, I believe.
And it's been pointed out that the new authority he's citing here also doesn't apply.
Looks like he's botching this one too.
@realcaseyrollins it was never revealed.
Many figure the perp is known, but the identity is being kept under wraps for some reason. Which is suspicious.
To be clear, #Trump is accepting his defeat and agreeing to abide by the ruling. #SCOTUS itself pointed out that there were ways for presidents to impose tariffs, but he botched this one.
He's not circumventing the legal smackdown here. Instead, he's taking the hint and trying something different.
Sure, it looks like he'll botch this one too, but that's why it's important to emphasize how ineffective he really is.
@wjmaggos it makes me think this is an implication of the engineering decisions to build ActivityPub around instances instead of users.
But yeah, broadcast system versus direct connection system.
Mainstream Republican response to the tariff ruling about as expected...
Confirmation bias on display from some folks who used to know better. I think a lot of that echo chamber are just aging out along with #Trump.
He's not hitting back at the Supreme Court. He's following legal procedures that he could have followed the whole time.
@jwcph The problem is that so few Americans seem to know how the government actually works, so they fall for lies that politicians spin in their own interests.
Americans can't put an end to it because they don't know civics well enough to know how to put an end to it, or even what's happening.
What? No, That's the opposite of what Roberts said.
Yes, a lot of sensational reporting gets that wrong.
@JdeBP I think you're giving Trump too much credit.
He's just spouting off in the media to score political points with his base. He doesn't actually know or care how any of the repayment may work.
All he cares about is making headlines in conservative media, and it's already working today.
@dever honestly, a whole lot of companies are set to make profits off of the ruling because everyone knew the tariffs were illegal the whole time.
Everyone was just waiting for the court to point it out.
Part of the reason that the tariffs didn't have a bigger economic impact is because the big companies just kept on importing knowing that they would be paid back once the reality of the illegality was confirmed.
@stribeprogblog I'm guessing the moron doesn't even know what he's referring to because he's just that out of touch with reality.
He just says things to get in the headlines. And to appeal to his base. He's basically spinning a conspiracy theory.
Congress has enacted a few different laws that allow the president to impose tariffs. He was just such an idiot that he used one of the few laws that isn't actually available to him.
It's pretty complicated, but yeah, there are a few different laws that he could have used this whole time.
Meh, He's done plenty of impeachable stuff already, but the people we elect to Congress aren't particularly interested in impeaching him.
We need to stop reelecting these ineffective representatives. Basically, don't vote for any incumbents at all, because otherwise if we reelect them yet again we just fail to hold them accountable.
It's really not about Trump. It's about the representatives that we keep re-electing for some reason.
@wolfinpdx Well because it plays to his base.
Honestly this was completely expected. Trump runs on this ridiculous notion that everybody is against him so he's going to fight, and this ruling against him just plays into the conspiracy theory that he sells to his voters.
Yeah everyone's against him because they're all corrupt. Sure. I mean it's ridiculous, but that's how he got elected so he's going to keep saying it, and this ruling is just more fodder for him to score political points on.
It's just the next chapter in the pattern of his administration.
What a poor felon rich guy.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)