You know what I reckon would be cool? If all the throngs of organisations and companies who claim to be open would actually establish themselves in the distributed, open source Fediverse. That'd be cool.

If they wanted to join this Mastodon instance, I'd be happy to approve their accounts - all they'd have to write in response to "why do you want an account on our server?" is "We're keen to walk the talk and stop being hypocrites". If they write that, they're in.

@lightweight

haha, ProtonMail did that - and then they left...

@selea just another reason I'm pleased I didn't adopt their service (and set up my own mail service, which, frankly, is superb).

@selea full credit, though, to the folks at Mailcow.email, as I use their dockerised install.

@lightweight

Running your own mailserver is really nice, so much freedom included

@selea yes, I've found it librating, and an opportunity to be generous to my friends. I host email for myself and many others. 3 MailCow instances, all about 2-3 years old. They are remarkable and inspiring technology, created by impressive and generous folks.

@lightweight @selea
Hi,
if you don't have skills for selfhosting things, what's the solution ?

@foxmask @lightweight @selea

Probably go with managed hosting.

@zleap @foxmask @selea that's always an option. The https://mailcow.email crew offer a managed service. But it costs $, because it requires their time and expertise. And doesn't depend on being able to exploit your data (and that of your correspondents).

@lightweight @zleap @foxmask @selea I think "time and expertise" are good reasons to pay $ for (unlike giving "the ability to exploit your data"). I personally feel confident in having self-hosted things to test and play with, but for critical things like email, with at least baseline security, certificates etc... not so much 😕