This is the question I am asking, remove Hamas and replace with what,
Good point, so if Hamas is removed and after which peacekeepers move in along with aid agencies, surely most people on both sides want peace and may find a way to better co-exist.
@zleap @Blueteamsherpa @malwaretech lol they don't want to co-exist, they want to exterminate Palestine and colonize the land.
Israel has talked itself into seeing Arabs as subhuman in the same way the third Reich did with Jews.
@phenidone @malwaretech @zleap
I don’t agree with you, and if unfortunately you are right, it didn’t used to be this way. Witness the Oslo Accords. Israel offered up almost everything the PLO stated it wanted and received the intifada. Israel gave back Gaza with nothing in return, and only returned when they had to in order to defend itself from attacks from Gaza.
Lastly, consider that Israel has not landlocked Gaza. They share a border with Egypt who won’t let them in either. Jordan wanted to give them a home until they tried to overthrow Jordan (see Black September).
@Blueteamsherpa @malwaretech @zleap that presumes Gaza and West Bank are natural boundaries of Palestine, though only a small portion of what it was before Israel's creation.
There is also a massive gap between Israel "defending itself" and dispossessing people by directly replacing them in their houses with colonists and ripping up crop and water infrastructure for settlements they haven't taken yet. I can see no way that Hamas dissipates while those actions continue.
@Blueteamsherpa @zleap @malwaretech one side/both sides. Neither side will allow the other to exist as a free independent entity.
Israeli political leaders are currently flashing around maps *without* Gaza on it. That should be pretty damned chiling.
As is their referring to Hamas as 'animals'. There was another government that referred to Jews that way once. History is rhyming
@pixelpusher220 @Blueteamsherpa @malwaretech
"As is their referring to Hamas as 'animals'. There was another government that referred to Jews that way once. History is rhyming"
I was thinking exactly the same thing,
@zleap @pixelpusher220 @malwaretech whomever said that was stupid.
Israel has a huge problem with those that attack it. I would assume less so with people that don’t. I’d love to have a chance for this to be proven right, but Israel was attacked from the day it was created until present day.
@Blueteamsherpa @zleap @malwaretech
Yoav Gallant, Israeli Defense Minister (through interpreter):
There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything will be closed. We're fighting against human animals, and we're acting accordingly.
Animals. Cutting off *water* to civilians is a war crime, no?
Per this:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/israel-levels-parts-of-gaza-in-retribution-for-hamas-terror-attack
@pixelpusher220 @zleap @malwaretech I disagree with that being done, even though there are similar actions being done (shutting down electricity through a cyber attack) by the other side.
@zleap @malwaretech I’d be good with an international peacekeeping force, but considering that one side seems to only accept the total destruction of the other, good luck wading into the middle of that.