If any German needed an argument for voting in the coming general election, look at this fact:
In the US, Trump won with the support of just 75 million votes in a country with 335 million citizens. In other words, just 22 percent of the US citizens decided to drive the country off a cliff, and everyone else is now going down with them.
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@randahl Unfortunately the ones who couldn't be bothered to vote did that too. Does anyone know the percentage yet?
Regardless of if you like or dislike Kamala Harris, she was very clear that the election was a choice, those who didn't bother to vote surely can't complain as to the outcome of the election, a vote for an independent candiate is to reject the main parties. While this could be argued it hands the win to a particular side, it does show up that x percent have simply rejected the other two choices.
@davidpnice @zleap @randahl I think you're both right unfortunately. And now, I have no faith in the democratic party whatsoever. To me and what I read and saw, she was good except wouldn't just lock down on ending fracking and ending genocide. Two pretty significant things... I'll run in the next election if I need to, but of course I've got several orders of magnitude less financially.
@MisterMultiverse @zleap @randahl Keep at least some faith in it - the only decent political institution the USA has left. And remember that in an eloquent address Bernie Sanders explained why, in spite of spinelessness on Palestine, Harris had to be supported.
@davidpnice @zleap @randahl just sharing my thoughts, and I appreciate yours.
I love and agreed with Bernie then and now. And I would certainly have voted for him.
However the arguments are still strong -- the best we had was still in favor of death, just not as much.
And simply, she couldn't pull off a win.
We need better than we have now.
I suppose 'local' is the best we can do for now. I hope it is enough.
@MisterMultiverse @zleap @randahl I don't believe for a minute she was 'in favor of death'. She was appalled, but still couldn't be strong enough. I'm happy to focus on so many Democrats still doing brilliant work, like AOC. But the party has to change.
@MisterMultiverse In America, the greatest number of voters are non-voters. 1/3 third of us do not vote. And tiny percentage margins are a fact of life in low-participatory elections. And that’s exactly how America ended up in the pickle we’re currently in. The trump-Harris election wasn’t a blowout like Reagan’s 1984 result (he won by 18 points) or even Obama in 2008. Just over 2 points separated Trump and Harris.
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@MoiraEve @MisterMultiverse @zleap @randahl I still need the percentage so I can do the math and find out just how many Americans are morally bankrupt.
@MisterMultiverse @davidpnice Exactly. You need the percentage for finding solutions—For fighting the disinformation above all. @randahl @zleap
@davidpnice @MoiraEve @zleap @randahl my boss and coworkers, at my new and old job. Many of my neighbors. I'm in a blue state, but yikes it's too many. So disappointing and frustrating. I think so much about how I can reach them enough to make some difference and they don't hardly think at all. And they laugh about it and are so sure they're right.
@davidpnice @MoiraEve @MisterMultiverse @zleap @randahl don’t forget to subtract all the people that Biden killed off with Covid. I’m not sure how the dems thought they could kill their base for four years and still win.
They were sure Trump lost 2020 because he killed off his base for 10 months, then Biden went ahead and did it for four more years. Fuckin eugenics got them. OH WELL
@MisterMultiverse @davidpnice @zleap @randahl Merrick Garland refused to prosecute a literal child sex trafficker, and now that sex trafficker is taking his job. It would be hilarious if we all didn’t have to suffer for it.
@davidpnice @zleap @randahl Everyone who voted for Harris is complicit in genocide. As is everyone who voted for Trump.
And a lot of other stuff that you legitimize by voting too, like destroying the climate. Every party that is pro growth is anti planet and anti life, which is almost every party in the world.
There is never a morally perfect choice in voting. The lesser evil is still evil.
Trump voters are indefensible IMO. Not voting is just something I don't like personally
@davidpnice @zleap @randahl Well I am German. I only tried to reach out to relatives in the US to vote for Harris.
The situation here is similar though. We have a choice between open fascists and democratic parties. When those basically say "we too promise things you won't get but you can unelect us in 4 years", I can understand people who are not convinced by that. It's an argument you can make to yourself (and I do), but not others. I wouldn't get out to canvas except for the left party.
@zleap @davidpnice @randahl Babe the dead people that Biden killed off with Vax and Relax can’t vote because they are dead.
And they won’t be complaining because they are dead, the lesser evil decided they could fall by the wayside and it wouldn’t matter.
IT MATTERED. THEY KILLED TOO MANY DEM VOTERS.
@zleap @randahl Anyone who by not voting rejected a clear choice between service and self, a competent prosecutor versus a convicted criminal, is simply despicable.