At the heart of Labour's white paper 'Get Britain Working' lies a fundamental problem:

By seeing work as defined as paid employment, it (and by extension the Govt.) downplays a lot of women's unpaid work (not least of all around care responsibilities).

As the Women's Budget Group point out, much unpaid work actually makes other economically defined work possible.

We need a major rethink about economic contribution(s), if that's how we value work!

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@ChrisMayLA6

You notice this when you have both volunteer and paid employment on your CV, employers seem to disregard volunteer work, even if that volunteer work is more related to the role you are applying for. Indeed job site seems to do this, so any volunteer workis given less presidence over paid work, this really can hold people back.

@zleap

Yes, that's always been clear; but thanks for making that point here! (boosted)

@zleap @ChrisMayLA6

Could be a value thing? If I see a lot of volunteering on a CV, I get suspicious and suspect an overly ideological leftist person who will be a pain to work with, and who enjoys a lot of virtue signalling.

In a work setting that would get on my nerves. Of course not all volunteers are like that, but that is my general impression of volunteers. But it also depends on the organization. If I would see oxfam, greenpeace, anything political, that would be

@zleap @ChrisMayLA6 a hueg minus for me.

On the other hand, I never think I've seen any volunteer work on the CV in my area of business except work on open source projects.

Work on open source projects is generally seen as a huge plus, and when I hire, I give people with active open source projects a higher rating than people who don't have any.

@h4890 @zleap

Its an interesting take on what volunteering signals, and yes I've heard that before about open-source project volunteering as a clear indicator of value... but, I guess what the issue is, is what skills, approaches & values volunteering for particular organisations indicates - if that signals something unwelcome to an employer, then including volunteering starts to look like a negative (even if one has done it)

@ChrisMayLA6 @zleap The job market can be cruel. As an example, an old acquaintance used to have a senior HR role at H&M in spain, and for some reason she found herself without a job.

She tried to take a time out, and only wanted to work in a store, part time, and it was impossible to for her to get a job.

She realized that it was her senior position that blocked her. So she removed it from her CV and removed some of her education, and then she got a part time job in a store in no time.

@ChrisMayLA6 @zleap I am also reminded of a volunteering complaint I read about a couple of days ago. A guy complained that every time he volunteers, his time is not respected, but wasted in drinking coffee, having project kick offs, team meetings etc. He just wanted to help, not drink coffee.

As soon as he charges for his time, he is sent to work immediately without team meetings, coffee etc.

Could it be, that some volunteer organizations could be better run as well?

@h4890 @zleap

Absolutely the case, but managing volunteers (I've done this) is also difficult as they often have very different priorities & views of time commitment to the host organisation

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