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@freemo It's fun and easy to take words that everyone uses, give them a special meaning, and then chide those who don't know your meaning for their ignorance.
I understand the frustration of witnessing apparently uncritical examination of truly difficult subjects paired with absolute confidence in the conclusions drawn. The question I have is, what's the most useful response?
@2ck that would largely depend n the person.
@freemo fair enough. what's the meta-response then? what set of responses for most people you deal with would be useful in, say, making people (at least the ones you are contact with) more scientifically literate over observable time scales? :P
@2ck generally there isnt one. Most of these people are going to believe what they believe
Socratic questioning to lead them to a parodox sometimes works if they have some sense of logic, most do not.
Shame can sometimes work to shut them up at least and that means they dont spread their ideas as readily. But that doesnt always work either.
For most you just wont get through.
Agreed. But I think the point of the meme is not that one should provide that level of evidence to convince others, but rather that you should provide that level of evidence for yourself, when determining your convictions.
I think when your mindset is to disprove your own assumptions then it is an easier barrier to break than when someone else from the outside is trying to do it.
@freemo @admin you're sounding like Bacon's (translated) novum organum (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/te8gXf9fXb7JWbJ9b/novum-organum-introduction). I think I found it in a toot somewhere around here
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I would take that comparison as a honor :)
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