How are gender-separated toilets still a thing lol
It's not like people are waving their dicks/tits around in there, and there doesn't seem to be a single difference between sitting in a stall / washing hands next to someone of the opposite gender. Hell, even urinals with basic separators don't result in unintentional flashing.
@Amikke I think there should be separate spaces, generally. it's ok to be primarily gender neutral if you can set up that situation in your community and establish some norms, but, broadly, cis-gendered hetero people probably can't be trusted to act right in these situations
@2ck yeah, that "set up that situation in your community and establish some norms" part is called civilised society, and there doesn't seem to be a correlation between gender / sexual orientation and the (in)ability to keep in-pants things in the pants. At least in the aforementioned civilised society, dunno if it's the same case in the USA.
@Amikke it is a different situation from how most public bathrooms work now. there are norms in those situations. they are different in gender-neutral bathrooms, but not everyone has been in gender-neutral public bathrooms before. I'm not saying you have to set up a commission, but explicitly saying "guys, close the door to the stall even if you're just peeing" or "always raise the toilet seat before you pee" is something you should do, even if most guys would work that out on their own. not to mention, people police traditionally gendered spaces pretty severely -- that's not just the flip of a switch to change, but takes a process, even if it's a relatively short one.
as far as sexual misconduct, it still happens in "civilised society". as a relatively obscured space (i.e., closed doors, not visible to passers-by), bathrooms are places where sex-offenders are more likely to make their moves. women in particular are justified in not wanting to be in situations where they could encounter such people, like if they just need to pee, but it's in a place with less traffic -> more chance you're alone with a potential creep.
