@shoq Because "vote" is still the right answer if you don't want to become that which you loathe.

@LouisIngenthron It's an answer, but not the only one. I was being hyperbolic in my intro, but there's a LOT the left can be doing besides merely voting or engaging in violence. It just doesn't do much of it.

@shoq The Twitter Left may not, but there are plenty of politically active democrats who knock on doors and write letters.

What actions, specifically, do you wish liberals took more often?

@LouisIngenthron

Good question! I've knocked on doors and written letters (and I expect many of the Twitter Left have, really), and I admit it's often felt sort of futile, although I have a sort of theoretical faith that it isn't.

I wish people would work harder on pushing the Overton Window leftward, rather than trying to "reach out" to the right. What that means concretely varies with person, I guess. Normalize the idea that capitalism isn't the Best Thing Ever, for instance, in personal discussion, in screenplays, candidates they support, political platforms... even on Twitter!

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@ceoln @shoq Interesting. Are you concerned about alienating moderates from the coalition with that approach?

@LouisIngenthron @ceoln

My definition of a moderate in 2023 is someone who watches @msnbc only when Nicolle Wallace has David Jolly or John Kasich on a panel. Sometimes they'll scratch their chins and wonder why so many Liberals loathe Tulsi Gabbard, or giggle at Marianne Williamson quotes.

@shoq @ceoln @msnbc Then you're definitely alienating moderates.

I consider myself a moderate (more specifically, a left-libertarian). In the past I've voted for candidates of both parties.

Currently, I'm aligned with the democratic coalition, (party-registered since Jan 7th 2021), because the GOP are attacking democracy itself, but that may not always be the case and I may go back to registering independent in the future (although, admittedly, probably not anytime soon).

The right fights for shared culture wars, which unites them.

The left, on the other hand, needs a diverse coalition to win, and that means balancing the needs of the nuttiest communist with the flip-floppiest center-right capitalists to broaden the voting base.

Also, fwiw, I don't watch MSNBC at all.

@LouisIngenthron

(In passing, I'm not sure that the left-libertarian position is generally considered "moderate", by much of anyone! 😁)

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@ceoln @shoq Maybe not. But most consider libertarian to be right-leaning, so I think there's a window there.

@LouisIngenthron @ceoln Sounds like a great reason to lose the label altogether. But then, DSA still clings to the word "socialist," even though most of the people coming here from other lands equate it with murderous hypocrites, dictators and thugs who killed their families, hopes, and dreams. Words matter.

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