@shoq Because "vote" is still the right answer if you don't want to become that which you loathe.

@LouisIngenthron It's an answer, but not the only one. I was being hyperbolic in my intro, but there's a LOT the left can be doing besides merely voting or engaging in violence. It just doesn't do much of it.

@shoq The Twitter Left may not, but there are plenty of politically active democrats who knock on doors and write letters.

What actions, specifically, do you wish liberals took more often?

@LouisIngenthron

Good question! I've knocked on doors and written letters (and I expect many of the Twitter Left have, really), and I admit it's often felt sort of futile, although I have a sort of theoretical faith that it isn't.

I wish people would work harder on pushing the Overton Window leftward, rather than trying to "reach out" to the right. What that means concretely varies with person, I guess. Normalize the idea that capitalism isn't the Best Thing Ever, for instance, in personal discussion, in screenplays, candidates they support, political platforms... even on Twitter!

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@ceoln @LouisIngenthron
I don't know anyone serious without Project Lincoln or No Labels in their name trying to "reach out to the right." That ship sailed a long time ago.

@shoq

That may well be true under a good definition of "serious" :) but I'm thinking of for instance the New York Times constantly nattering about how the Democrats can better appeal to Trump supporters with all their (what was the buzzword?) Economic Anxiety and diners and all. And even friend Louis here worrying about alienating moderates (moderates are, by definition, to the right of the left).

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OMG, you're not still reading @nytimes editorial pages, are you? I just read the @nytimes pitchbot on Twitter, and occasionally glance at at the front page to see if Maggie Haberman has retired to spend more quality time with her rolodex.

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@shoq @ceoln Do you associate Fox News' opinion hosts with the right?

Because that's what the NYT is to most Americans for the left.

@LouisIngenthron @ceoln Yes, they do. And the NYTimes is about as Left as I am Krishna. Which is to say, not at all.

@shoq

"Left" and "Right" are fraught terms because they're directions and also positions. The NYT is to the left of Trump, but it's not to the left of positions that you and I would consider reasonable.

I don't read the NYT editorial pages, but I also acknowledge that many, many people consider it at least "liberal".

And you are totally Krishna. :P

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