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@freemo I don't know anything about pae.st, and I just scanned a couple of hours of the federated feed and didn't see a single toot from that instance. I don't have any user from that instance blocked or banned, and I don't have the instance blocked. I don't remember seeing any toots from that instance.

I voted "No", because I don't have any information about it.

Also, this in not how due process works. We don't deny access or rights based on a vote. That's a fundamental precept of liberal democracy.

The way it's supposed to work is: First people vote on the rules that they want (usually with a supermajority required to made a rule that restricts rights). If a bad actor breaks the rules, then you act.

And the way that you determine if a bad actor has broken a rule is that you have due process -- 1) an accusation is made; 2) if an initial investigation determines that there is likely a violation, then you launch a proceeding to determine for sure whether a violation took place.

And, at a minimum, the proceeding allows the accused to respond and defend themselves.

All this bullshit of punishing people and cancelling people and shunning people and all the other witch hunts has got to stop. It tyranny, by those who have the biggest microphone. It's not anything that resembles democracy.

I'm not defending pae.st because I know nothing about that instance. I'm defending fairness and democratic process.

@Pat This vote will not in any way decide if we silence that instance.

I wanted to figure out if i asked who wanted an instance silenced, when that instance was one of the worst examples of an instance that I would expect would have the largest number of people voting "yes"... in that case how many would agree.

My intent was simply to see how often the instance is likely to agree on silencing any one instance, where I expect this instance to get the highest percentage of yes of any instance.

@freemo

I understand that your poll was just an experiment. But I think a better approach is to identify what aspects of the content may be objectionable, and then propose rules based on that.

Then you could have a poll as to whether or not people think the new proposed rule should be implemented.

If your purpose is to stimulate convo about what the rules should be, fine. But a poll about banning a specific instance seems like it's just another one of those cancel-culture campaigns (even though your poll was just an experiment).

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