@neverfadingwood
Thanks, the article is interesting.
I don't like Vandana Shiva and in this article she alone is the basic source of opinions against bt. cotton, so I'm kind of skeptic of the whole conclusions.
The matter of correlating monsanto product usage with suicides seems still fairly open to debate to me.
In any case, I wouldn't mix GMOs in and by themselves with one company policies. That's just me though.
@arteteco @neverfadingwood I think this paper is more against your statements than for them. :/ It seems to suggest that the raise in suicides started five years before the introduction of BT Cotton. So.. it would be tough to connect this rise in suicides to BT Cotton if the trend started BEFORE they appeared on the market.
@Surasanji
My understanding is that they draw a causal relation, just not a direct one. Please, point out if I'm getting it wrong, the papers conclusions don't seem very clear to me, they keep jumping from one position to another =D
" the firm’s monopolistic practices forced Bt. farmers to invest heavily in something for which they lacked the proper management skills. "
"there is a definite association between economic factors associated with Bt. cotton farming and farmer-suicide"
@Surasanji Wait, I'm getting lost here, what is your conclusion? That there is no relationship?
@arteteco @neverfadingwood Yeah. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm at work and sort of juggling my brain from here to there!
I do not believe that the rise in farmer suicides is connected to the introduction of BT Cotton.
@Surasanji
Don't worry, happens not to understand each other =D
I'll take my time to read the articles you linked when I'm more free, thanks for sharing. I don't have any opinion on the matter, but it's something worth exploring being in my field of interest =)
The PP within the statistical and probabilistic structure of “ruin” problems. Applies but not limited to transgenics(GMOs)
Project by Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Yaneer Bar-Yam, Rupert Read,
Joseph Norman, and Raphael Douady http://fooledbyrandomness.com/PrecautionaryPrinciple.html
@js290 @Surasanji @neverfadingwood
Thanks for the link. I didn't know about PP, it seem to give a more understandable form to the doubts I always had about how safe it may be in the long run... I will give it a nice read =)
@arteteco @neverfadingwood Support for my conclusion:
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/29/11652
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/gmo-and-indian-farmer-suicide/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2008/nov/05/gmcrops-india