question to the #gardening people:

any recommendations for vegetables native (or at least very long use since prehistoric times) to europe (oceanic climate)? many things which are from the new world are too flimsy for this climate without a greenhouse.

vicia faba grows pretty nice here, as do things like radishes.

@bonifartius Eh, I know there are a bunch.. Carrots, tomatoes, beans, etc? The usual stuff?

@trinsec well, tomatoes are in the list of things which are a bit too flimsy without help.

the fava beans are doing really good, i was wondering if there are any other plants like that.

i want a proper greenhouse (with stone north wall to store heat for the night etc.) at some point, but currently don't have the time to build it.

@bonifartius What about cherry tomatoes? Smaller fruits, possibly less flimsy?

And of course there's also asparagus, various kales, lettuce, endive, etc.

@trinsec i also have endive, onions and chard planted, but i've yet to see if they survive this weather and the slugs (of which are many because of the weather) :)