With 95-octane #petrol at 1.70 €/ℓ,
and us paying 0,14 €/KW×h at home,
we're saving ~1,200 €/year in fuel.
Assuming we paid a €10K premium for a 100% #EV (over a comparable petrol-powered #car), we'll break even in little more than 8 years.
Throw in some likely savings in vehicle taxes, maintenance, and parking meters, and it's more like 7 years until we recoup the extra investment.
We bought it one year ago, so we'll start saving actual #money in 2029.
+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
@tripu well, if it fits your bill! :)
my problems with EV are that they aren't remotely as environmentally friendly as they are said to be and that one is totally dependent on the power grid. with an internal combustion engine i can just have some 20L jerrycans stored and transported at nearly no cost for indefinite periods. with a 20€/1000L bottle of additive even diesel can be stored for a long time. i think such a reserve can be very valuable, especially in these times. i'm an unhinged tinfoil head though :)
Dependence on a power socket would be a weakness in very, very unstable times for sure.
wrt environmental friendliness, it's difficult to tell. Even with conservative estimates, I think my car beats a petrol car in Spain with our power generation mix and my usage pattern. If/when the grid gets smarter and the power mix here gets greener, my opting for an EV should be a net positive all things considered.
Then there's also the extra comfort (quieter, non-stinky, instant torque), the “privileges” (entering the city centre, special lanes, parking for free and with no time limit in congested areas) and the example/inspiration/proof-of-concept for myself and for others.
@tripu let's just say that after the last years i'd fully expect governments to shut down power to hinder movement. if they can do it selectively via smart grid stuff all the better for them.
i know i'm in fully unhinged tinfoil mode, i don't see a reason why i shouldn't be though. it's a shame that things which are great from a technical perspective always enable dictatorship. smart grids do make perfect sense, but the way they are done just enables things like shutting down all EV charging to stop people from going anywhere. i can go for ~1000km with a full tank of diesel, i can extend this by carrying cans of fuel. fossil fuels just have a very good energy density. i can get in the car now and drive 1000km non stop if i want to, which is pretty amazing if you think about it.
one probably could design smart grids in a way that they are autonomous and cooperative, not centrally controlled. won't happen though, the lure of power and lazyness of implementers will not let that happen. they will say that there will be people gaming the system as if you couldn't design around that. just account for say 5% assholes or something like that. it's pure unwillingness on the state and big tech side, nobody wants to give up control.
my biggest criticism for the environmental friendliness of EV is that the costs are just externalized to some 3rd or 2nd world country where lithium and rare earth metals are extracted. it's just pushed to sell some new technology, not to save the planet.
