@reverend
consider:

- we don't have a free market here. everything is overregulated. half of income gets extracted and then put into companies who did the best "lobbying" (bribes).
- measuring success by "high speed train exists" is a fallacy. those prestige projects always work in collectivist systems, that's why the pyramids exist. just takes enough resources and people to make the problem go away. keeping the high speed trains going over decades is where it is.
- china isn't successful because of communism, it's successful for allowing just enough capitalist flexibility to sell things to the west and by ignoring effects on people and environment.

@bonifartius Yes, of course. It's just provocation. For years, we've been listening to the arrogant babbling of the feudal Western Europeans who have been dumbed down. I like everything that annoys them. And yes, China is not communism. But there are no free markets either. Even if there were, accumulation would inevitably set in. And with it, centralisation and monopoly.

@begsby @reverend die meisten picken sich bei mises usw. auch nur raus was ihnen passt, genauso wie die anderen sich die "schönen teile" vom kommunismus aussuchen.. für mich gewinnt wer ohne gewalt auskommt, und das tut nur der freie markt.

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