@Edent why did I think the stnd default after power on was off and uncommunicative? And you still need some sort of bridge/hub to talk to them from a phone?
@falken it depends. The WiFi ones don't need a hub. I have Lifx bulbs and they each have an IP address on my WiFi network. When they are powered off then on, they light up and connect.
ZigBee bulbs need a hub.
I don't think I've *ever* had a smart bulb that defaulted to off.
@Edent ohhh... Plan then. Order some cheap ZigBee RGB smart bulbs and install as direct replacement for dumb bulbs.
Save up for a USB ZigBee hub, and then play with #homeassistant in Docker later.
Should pass the Significant Other test if light switches still work
@falken they do. Or, at least, these ones do.